Like him or not Irving is a champion and have plenty of playoff experience. He is still a great player. Ayton has finals and playoff experience. Iriving is on the last year of his contract. The least he could do is help build and lead Green and the younger players in the right direction and cultivate a winning mindset. If Irving plays amazing, the Rockets may consider rewarding him with a new contract. As I said, the bottom line to this is build a winning culture laying a foundation for next crop of players and acquisitions. Vet experience, leadership and mentorship is invaluable to a young team.
Man, Irving hasn't been on a contender since he left Lebron. To the contrary, he has hurt every team he's been on since. And explain to me how a guy who doesn't even care about basketball and would rather collect checks without playing is going to lead our younger players in the right direction and cultivate a winning mindset? He is single handedly the reason the Nets are likely to blow up and never come even close to reaching those championship aspirations.
people are in this thread posting alternative facts and fake news regarding Kyrie…it’s getting ridiculous Now he’s gonna provide leadership, be a mentor, and help build a winning foundation?
Thats your interpretation of him. What reporting says he doesn’t care about basketball? I really haven’t seen that written anywhere. And the honest truth is neither you or I have complete information and I did specifically mention that according to the reporting the acquisition would make sense. Despite his complicated history he is still an All Star, champion, and can still impart knowledge on this young team especially for one year.
Neither you or I have complete information on who Kyrie is. As I said, we can only go by what’s reported. How do you know he isn’t a leader? Has it been reported that he isn’t a great leader or even has the ability to lead? Have you played with him? Or is it your own personal opinion on him which Is a composite profile you created based on his COVID stance or stint in Boston or other past history? I don’t know if he is a great leader. I don’t know if he has character or professional issues. All I know is his media revelations in Boston wasn’t well received. But he was still a professional going to work and playing hard as the media reports have never confirmed he wasn’t commited or desired to play. As I said the man is a great player and no one can take that away from him. His experience and championship experience is still valuable albeit for just one year. And I said this could still be useful and fruitful as he would be a vet sharing his experience with a young team. There still is a considerable amount of work he put in that could influence other players. It all remains a possibility in light of the report OP posted. I never said anything is fact either but again like him or not he didn’t just get to become a champion or all star with no work ethic. His methods may be questionable but he was fully Committed to the team and again for just one year the work ethic and experience could help this young team while unloading Wall’s contract.
Here is him talking about how there are things more important than basketball (which is just fine if your team isn't paying you 40 million dollars to play twenty some odd games) https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...tball-just-not-most-important-thing-right-now Here is a more recent story where he reportedly told a relative that basketball is more or less just a 9 to 5 to him. Mind you he said that at a point in which he hadn't even suited up for his team that year. It was reported by the Athletic, but because of the paywall I'm linking a recap from Clutch Points. https://clutchpoints.com/nets-news-basketball-more-less-just-job-to-kyrie-irving-per-family-member/
If his attitude rubs off on our youngsters he could permanently ruin this fantastic start to a rebuild. And it blows my mind that you guys think he'll come to work and play with the worst team in the league when he couldn't be bothered to get a shot so he could suit up with the team that went into the season as the favorites to win a title. You're showing up to play with baby Jalen Green when you don't even care enough to show up and play with KD? We're talking about a guy who has Nike pulling his sponsorship because they are so uncertain about his future in the league.
Not sure about that. The Celtics didn't look so good with him around. And it took Ime Udoka to get those guys to start playing to their potential. Who knows if Tatum and Brown would have ever gotten there without the right coach. That's a lot to gamble on. Now is that Irving's fault? No idea. I just know he didn't help that team at all then he bolted. Then he didn't help Brooklyn at all. And both of those teams had far better rosters and prospects than ours.
You haven't? You must not follow many NBA writers or, you know, pay attention to his actions. If someone asked the average NBA fan to name a single star who appears to care the least about the sport, Kyrie's getting more votes than any player and I bet it's not close. He's commented numerous times on caring about other things more than the sport, which is fine. That's a reasonable thing to say, but then he sat out a huge chunk a season while refusing to get a vaccine that pretty much every other star player in the league received. I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks it's a good idea for a rebuilding team to trade for this man has not paid attention to his behavior the last 4-5 years. He's unhinged, and his actions have cost his teams on numerous occasions. He needs to stay far, far away from this franchise.
I'll burn Toyota Center to the ground before I watch Kyrie Flatearthving play basketball in a Rockets uniform.
You guys create dumb azz narratives and just run with them. The reason he missed games was because the city of New York purposely made him a example for not taking the vaccine. I myself agreed with him and so did a large portion of america. He's been healthy and when he is he's the best show in the nba. Him & Jalen Green would fill seats every night. Yall are too concerned about his personal beliefs smh
if u don’t know, it’s because u haven’t been paying attention How did his vet experience work out in Boston? He would go days without speaking to teammates in Cleveland. ESPN's Jackie MacMullan reported on The Hoop Collective Podcast (h/t RealGM). "I've been told this by many people. He didn't like living in Boston. He just didn't. By the end, he had issues with Brad [Stevens]. By the end, he had issues with Danny [Ainge]. By the end, he had issues with pretty much all of us." Irving is an unrestricted free agent and widely believed to be heading elsewhere, with the Brooklyn Nets and New York Knicks often mentioned as his top suitors. He's coming off arguably the best season of his career individually, making second-team All-NBA for the first time and his sixth All-Star appearance. The city of Boston never seemed to warm up to Irving in the same way it did to Isaiah Thomas, the point guard who was traded for Kyrie and shared a special bond with the fans. Those relationships are two-way streets, but one could easily argue that Irving faced a somewhat uphill battle in replacing Thomas despite being a better player. Irving is also a cantankerous personality. During his time in Cleveland, Irving would go days without speaking to teammates—even when the Cavaliers were in the midst of a playoff run. The issues within the Celtics locker room were well-documented throughout the season. There were team meetings, followed by thawing periods, followed by another falling out, which led to the cycle seemingly repeating throughout the disappointing year. By his own admission, Irving said he failed as a leader in certain respects. Comments made by Terry Rozier also highlighted the discord behind the scenes, particularly between the young players and veterans. That Irving had issues with the Celtics organization as a whole should come as no surprise, given the team did little to hide the fissures. and there’s plenty more…there’s no need to feign ignorance regarding Kyrie or pretend like u have no clue whether or not he’s been an issue What’s next, we don’t know if Christian Wood isn’t a leader or a problem because we don’t know him and never played with him, and everything else is just media reports? If Kyrie was such an angel, why on Earth would BK even think about getting rid of him? Especially for the garbage trades getting posted in this thread like Kyrie for John Wall? He is KD’s BFF. He is a significantly better player. He is even more available than John Wall as well who hasn’t played in more than 41 games since 2017.
I can see your stance on Covid has clouded your mind. Kyrie's stance on this is admirable. IMHO However after Nook giving us his history of games played, I would pass on him.
I'm a say something I've been thinking about for days... definitely since I saw this rumor... Kyrie Irving don't want to play for the Houston Rockets. You know it, I know it and the entire NBA knows it. Stop wasting your time with this idea.
He said there are more important things in the world than basketball and cited racial discrimination and his views on Palestinian and Israeli situation and his role in helping humanity. He even said he focuses on basketball “24-7”. Is he not allowed to have thoughts on other things other than basketball? And at what point does he say he does not care about playing the game at all? Or that he doesn’t care for his team and teammates? Does he say he won’t do his job or that he wasn’t going to fulfill his responsibilities on the court. He simply said it was a job. Many of us in the corpora world can relate. At the end of the day its just a job. Doesn’t mean you’re not going to perform or have no responsibilities. And some of us value other things like our families over our jobs. Doesn’t mean you’re not committed or a good employee.
