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[ESPN] Who will go number 1: Bridgewater vs. Clowney

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by zeeshan2, Dec 4, 2013.

  1. rocketry

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    I'm sold:

    Highlight and deeper understanding of him:
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    Stiff arming linebackers on 4th and 12 (who said he's not tough?):
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    Personality too?:
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  2. Drew_Le

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  3. Cannonball

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    I like Bridgewater. I understand why people might not or why they'd prefer Clowney. But if you don't draft a QB #1, you have have to have some kind of plan for how you're going to get one because you're not winning until you do and I don't think any QB available in the 2nd or 3rd is going to get it done. I view Clowney as a luxury. It'd be great to have him, especially paired with Watt. But just because of the importance of the positions, he's not going to make as much of a difference in terms of wins and losses and a good QB would. I wish we were in the same position as Atlanta where QB isn't an issue. It would make the decision a lot easier.
     
  4. Old Man Rock

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    Yeah I thought so too. He saw almost exactly what I saw. Not saying I am on some scouts level of evaluating talent but if you know what to look for it is not hard to see.

    He rated him over Mariota but more than that he said, "Teddy Bridgwater, right now, is the second-best quarterback I've scouted, ahead of RGIII, Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford, Philip Rivers, Eli Manning and Aaron Rodgers. Of course, we're talking about him as a draft prospect, so there are no guarantees, but his pre-draft grade is at an elite level." That's an impressive opinion from a pro scout.

    The one thing he didn't mention was his character. This kid does not care about individual accolades. He cares about winning. He said after Bostic slammed him down on the first play against florida it just made him mad. He wanted to win even more after that.

    And that's what he did. I bet you anyt6hing Bostic thought he scared Bridgewater after that but it was the opposite. Bridgewater was awaken and he came out after that and destroyed florida. It's like Japanese Admiral Yamamoto said after they bombed Pearl Harbor, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant". That's why I think he is going to be special. He has all the elite skills you want in a QB and he has the heart of a lion. That's what makes him special. That's why you pick him #1.
     
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  5. Jake Tower

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    I've become convinced with the way the modern NFL plays, rules changes, and so on that the number one need is a franchise quarterback. If Bridgewater has that potential, and the prospect of obtaining one later in the draft isn't there, the Texans should take him #1.

    Bridgewater would end up with a 'security blanket' in his development of being able to throw to AJ for a couple of seasons at least.
     
  6. rezdawg

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    Can someone explain to me how Teddy has a plus arm? I mean, he lacks major zip on his balls...they are accurate throws, but he seems to lack a lot of arm strength. His throws remind me of Matt Schaub's throws...but Teddy has the athletic edge, obviously.
     
  7. M.G.

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    You're correct that Bridgewater doesn't have incredible arm strength, but it's definitely serviceable and no where close to as bad as Schaub's.

    In fact, if you watch his tape, he rarely ever misses short. He either puts the ball on the money or overthrows his receiver. This is part arm strength and part football intelligence.
     
  8. MadMax

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    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Breaking-down-Bridgewater.html

    He throws a tight ball and has excellent arm strength.


    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ille-glove-hands-clean-up-2014-draft/3009249/

    "He's got plenty of arm strength"


    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...b-is-perfect-nfl-draft-prospect-would-go-no-1

    Another underrated component of his game is his arm strength, and UL journalist Howie Lindsey tweeted during the Cincinnati game that Bridgewater threw two balls north of 55 yards against the Bearcats.


    http://rosterwatch.com/2014-nfl-draft-pre-season-top-five-junior-quarterbacks

    Overall arm talent is no question with Bridgewater. His arm strength and zip isn’t special, but it’s above-average and will certainly get the job done. In terms of accuracy and touch, he is stellar. Bridgewater puts the ball where it’s easiest for the wide receiver to handle and make a play.


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...breaking-down-louisville-qb-teddy-bridgewater

    He grades out near the top of the scale in arm strength (I watched him zing it in person at the 2013 Sugar Bowl against Florida), and is capable of making every throw in the book with zip or touch.
     
  9. rezdawg

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    That's because you are watching his highlights...he's had plenty of throws that end up short.

    His arm strength is not greater than Schaub's...if anything, they are equal.

    There is only one elite QB in the NFL that doesnt have elite arm strength, and that is Peyton Manning...Manning used to have the arm strength, but now he gets by bc he's one of the most intelligent QBs to ever play the game.

    I think it is very difficult to be a franchise type QB without the ability to zip the ball through small holes.
     
  10. ivenovember

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    I think a lot of people are hung up on the draft a QB because Schaub/Case aren't good enough. I personally wouldn't mind looking at Cutler or Roethlisberger if the price was right though.
    Clowney + Roethlisberger might get you towards the Super Bowl pretty quickly compared to developing a franchise QB who might not actually be a franchise QB.
     
  11. rezdawg

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    I understand what people say about him...Im asking why they are saying that...check out his highlight videos and point me to a ball that he throws that has crazy zip on it. What you will find is that 99% of his balls have the same zip or less than what Matt Schaub has shown us...and we all know Matt Schaub has the reputation of having one of the weakest arms in the NFL.
     
  12. M.G.

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    No, I've gone back and watched tape where they show every single one of his throws from each game. The overall trend is that doesn't usually throw the ball short, and when he does, he often has a receiver that has a clear height advantage over the DB, so it's occasionally an intentional jump-ball throw.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    I've seen Bridgewater make underhanded throws that were stronger than anything Schaub ever threw. No idea where this arm strength concern is coming from.
     
  14. Ricksmith

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    I don't know what I hate most about draft discussions; The "Player A will be a bust, I'm right and you're wrong" debates, or how everyone throws around the term "watching tape" or "watching film."

    Does saying you're watching tape/film make you guys feel more official? Does it channel your inner Mel Kiper? It's almost 2014, y'all know damn well y'all are just sitting back, watching game replays and highlights on YouTube. Not a single person is sitting in their den or in their kitchen with the lights dimmed and an old school projector, watching actual tape or film.
     
  15. Old Man Rock

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    Dumbest post of the day.
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    Actually, considering the username, it's brilliant.
     
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  17. M.G.

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    I have watched tape. I was bored on a Saturday afternoon with nothing better to do until my plans later on in the day. I have access to it and thought it'd be pretty interesting to check out a potential Texans draft pick.
     
  18. Canadiandude

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    A Sage Rosenfels roflcopter @ 1.27 mark as a highlight? Yikes.
     
  19. HR Dept

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    I'm not totally sold on Bridgewater, but this is a critique that I have yet to see. Not sure that you're accurate with that one.
     
  20. Scarface281

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    Bridgewater has that arm the smells NFL int. He floats his balls.
     

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