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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by 45souf, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. 45souf

    45souf Member

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    I know its not gonna happen, but what do you guys think?
    Proposed trade No. 1:
    New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady to the Texans for Houston's 2015 first-round draft pick and wide receiver Andre Johnson


    Before you scroll down to the comments section and leave the obligatory nasty note, consider that we asked a current NFL general manager if this incendiary, social media-exploding potential deal was plausible.

    "Absolutely," he said. "It actually makes too much sense. The players in the Patriots' locker room know that their days are numbered. That's just the way it is in New England."

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    Tom Brady, the unlikely sixth-round draft choice who delivered three Super Bowl victories in a span of four years, knows this better than anyone. It happened to Drew Bledsoe, a franchise quarterback who lost his job to Brady early in the 2001 season, watched him win a Super Bowl and then was shuffled off to Buffalo ... for a first-round draft choice.

    "If you play for the Patriots -- and, honestly, it doesn't matter if you're Tom Brady -- you're there as long as you're useful," Bledsoe said this past January in a television feature about the Patriot Way. "Tom will have his time, too. And he knows that."

    That time, in our admittedly feverish minds, is now. Sure, the Patriots are probably on their way to an 11th division title in 12 years -- something that hasn't happened since the AFL-NFL merger -- but they haven't won a Super Bowl in nearly a decade. Three years ago, the Patriots spent a third-round pick on quarterback Ryan Mallett. He was not the Brady heir they imagined and wound up in Houston. There is a feeling within the New England organization that Jimmy Garoppolo, this year's second-round draft choice, might be that guy. He broke some of Tony Romo's most cherished records at Eastern Illinois, and, with Brady in what is widely perceived as decline, this transition could work.

    The biggest factor in this trade is the Patriots' institutional arrogance, i.e., the belief head coach Bill Belichick has in his ability to do what's best for the team. Belichick's signature personnel moves feature the departure of a startling series of aging but still serviceable players: Bledsoe, Lawyer Milloy, Ty Law, Damien Woody, Richard Seymour, Mike Vrabel, Wes Welker and, just prior to this season, Logan Mankins.

    His Houston counterpart, head coach Bill O'Brien, is a huge Brady fan, having served as his quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator and witnessed Brady's past two Super Bowl appearances from the Patriots' sideline. Ryan Fitzpatrick was O'Brien's choice to run Houston's offense, but wouldn't the Texans much rather have Brady in the huddle, showing the kind of emotion they already have on the other side of the ball with J.J. Watt? The Texans, who won two games a year ago, feel like they're getting closer to serious contention. Jadeveon Clowney, this year's No. 1 overall pick, looks ready to come back and contribute. Brady, even if he's sometimes missing targets he used to hit, would be a big addition.

    There's precedent, too. Even the great Joe Montana, whom Brady idolized while growing up in the Bay Area, was sent packing by the 49ers, along with a safety and a third-round pick, for Kansas City's first-rounder. The Patriots, of course, would rather have DeAndre Hopkins, a 22-year-old version of Johnson, but they'll likely be content with the receiver who is 11 years his senior. New England would hope Johnson can contribute like another 30-something pickup back in 2007: Randy Moss.

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    Joe Montana was be traded to the Chiefs at age 36. So why can't Tom Brady be jettisoned at age 37?
    Here are the salary mechanics of the deal: To trade Brady before June 1, the Patriots would carry $18 million in dead money in 2015, the money left on his signing bonus. Cutting Peyton Manning cost the Colts $10.6 million against the cap two years ago, so there is a precedent for a large number when the salary is replaced by a rookie contract. Brady's contract is interesting. His salaries for 2015-17 (a total of $24 million) become fully guaranteed if he's on the roster for the last game of the 2014 season. Hmm.

    After an embarrassing Week 4 loss to the Chiefs, there were rumors Brady was at odds with the coaching staff's offensive philosophy. Welcome to Houston, Tom.

    "I see the logic, but based on the last few games, I think it's too early to get on the Jimmy Garoppolo bandwagon," former Redskins and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said. "I think Brady can still play."

    Which is precisely why O'Brien and the Texans have to scoop him up. Brady knows their system, and he gives them instant credibility. The Patriots get a desperately needed wide receiver and a valuable first-round pick in return.

    Last year, before he played the Broncos, Brady was asked in an ESPN interview how he was coping with the loss of Welker.

    "I'm used to it at this point," Brady said. "It's just the way it is. You have to be mentally tough enough to put those things aside and still perform at a high level. Because if you don't, there's going to be someone else here ready to take your job."
     
  2. No Worries

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    Good trade for New England.
     
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    It might make sense if this team were really close to contention and was only a QB away. Then maybe you could deal with the short window that comes with trading for a 37 year old quarterback. But this team isn't simply one player away. And if this team were just a QB away, it wouldn't make too much sense to trade for one while taking away what would be his best weapon.

    As much as we need a QB, that trade would set the franchise back a few years because we'd still need a QB again in a couple of years and we would've traded a high pick that we could've potentially used on one. And what would the reward be? A couple of playoff appearances. Maybe. But we wouldn't be a legit Super Bowl contender. By the time the rest of the team is built up, Brady would be done. For where the Texans currently are and where Brady is in his career, the timelines just don't match up.
     
  6. Phillyrocket

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    Doesn't seem to make sense to trade an aging AJ for an aging Brady. NE would be in rebuild mode with a rookie QB. Is this just to make it work under the salary cap?

    If we had Brady you're in win now mode and you would want to retain AJ.
     
  7. Nimo

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    I just saw this too. I'm a huge Brady fan but I'm not sure if he can fix the team. He can only upgrade one position but so many other positions on the team have disappointed. Not to mention if you trade Andre Johnson, who's the #2 receiver?
     
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    Rick Smith would probably blow the pick anyway, so why not at least get a few years of Tom Brady out of it.
     
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    have cousins/colt win out and have the redskins believe to stick with them.
    then, trade a 2nd rounder and 3rd in 2016 for RG jr jr.


    or hope savage can be that guy. I see us drafting a punter in the first round before a quarterback. just feels that way.
     
  10. Crashlanded19

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    Id rather trade the pick instead of watching this dumb front office **** it up once again.. I think Brady can save us like manning saved the broncos..we are better then the initial broncos team peyton got handed and he took them to the playoffs
     
  11. Mkieke

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    Not to be obnoxious, but can you post the link next time?
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    This is moronic for both teams
     
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    other trades were: Marshawn to Chargers, McCoy to Raiders, Suh to Bengals
     
  14. 45souf

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    Calvin Johnson for Aaron Rodgers.

    JJ Watt for Richard Sherman.

    Just trying to think of equally moronic trades.
     
  16. 45souf

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    I think espn must be bored and thought" WTF why not"
     
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    Texans get the QB they desperately need while taking away his best weapon.

    Patriots get the WR they need, while taking away the guy that throws the ball to him.

    Genius!
     
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    [​IMG]:grin::grin::grin::grin:
     
  20. thedude077

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    I don't see Tom Brady traded from New England at all. He's staying there.
     

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