I thought I'd seen enough parodies of this scene already, but this one had some great moments: "I'd trade T-Macaroni for anything... new teeth for Landry, a tricycle for Aaron Brooks." Friggin' brilliant! The tricycle line was priceless.
Sorry but please rethink!! Tracy has not been given enough playing time to get into game shape. Adelman has been careful to prevent Tracy from getting into game shape and showing just what he can do. ( only 7.5 mins playing ) What are Adelman's motives, certainly not the best for the Rockets or McGrady!!
No, he is not...because he can not beat his man off the dribble, doesn't run around screens or set picks with authority and doesn't get back on defense or run the break. He is 4th or 5th string, does Dorsey deserve minutes? That is the difference between you and I....to me, Tracy has not EARNED any minutes this year......if he did....I would be fine with playing him....but to me, play the guys that will be here next season, and are playing hard now....over injured players trying to play their way into shape. Meritocracy - FTW. Sorry, either he is ready or he isn't and right now he isn't. You don't get to play your way into shape.......when there are others playing better than you that are in shape now. And Adelman is trying to win games and do what is right for the team this year, and next year. DD
whats next is get mcgrady to cleveland as soon as possible than clutch can get a server for a 1000 members because half of clutchfans will be gone
exactly. yao said recently in an article (talking about his shanghai sharks) that his style DOES NOT match the current style the team is playing and he hopes there is a COMPROMISE that incorporates BOTH STYLES. is adelman thinking that yao will fully return to his old ways? given it's a TOUGHER injury to come back from and seeing how Z is a jumpshooting role player now? this is more htan just basketball reasons. they might say it is, but it's for PR reasons. any basketball mind would know YOU NEED TO PLAY BASKETBALL TO GET INTO SHAPE (yao would need to do the same next year if he wants to get back any kind of game). it's obvious the team does not want tmac to do that. amare struggled mightily in his 6 games back, went scoreless 3 games. so what? as a coach, you're not going to give him more minutes for him to get his game back? the points are: houston doesn't want to play tmac. houston doesn't want to give tmac a chance to get himself back into shape at the expense of other players b/c he's not going to be a rocket next year. morey and adelman don't like mcgrady. tmac looked like the "old" tmac (and yes, he tried on defense in that game) and that didn't earn him any extra minutes. the writing is on the wall. adelman and the team don't want to play him and want to trade him.
True dat. If anything positive is said, it suddenly becomes a rationalization contest. Silly Clutchfans.
I'm sorry, sir, but you are a moron. He IS a capable NBA player. I say dump him now and get someone in exchange who can contribute to this team. But to say, "HE IS NOT A CAPABLE NBA PLAYER," means you have your head up your arse. He's not Kobe, he's not LBJ, he's not Michael Jordan. He's not a good fit for our system or for the new direction of our team. But not even "capable"? You'd think after 60,000 posts you'd have something even remotely resembling a rational opinion. But all you have is extreme hate bordering on psychosis.
The point is that he is not healthy......he can not keep up......he is NOT capable of beating out the guys that are playing ahead of him. The Tmac crowd just can't see the forest through the trees. DD
I'm not a member of "the T-Mac crowd". He had his time here but it's obviously behind us now. (If and when Yao's time is done - and that could be next year - I'll wish him a safe journey into that dark night.) I'll be happy to unload T-Mac if the right deal comes along, but I don't want to corner him in a dark alley and spit on his face, the way you do. If he's not even capable, as you posit, then we won't be able to get anything worthwhile in exchange for him. Eight minutes is not enough time to see if he can get anywhere near, say, 18-20 ppg if he were a full-timer, but it is enough to see that the man can still play. Sweet passing skills, still has quickness in slashes to the basket, and a shot that's still a bit shaky but coming along. I've been present at every T-Mac home game since coming back, and from my perch in the first row I got a very good look at him. What's all this talk about him being bulky? He's in 2006 form, far as I can tell. And he's very chummy with teammates. You can say, "It's all an act," but that's two hours of very convincing acting on his part and his teammates' in every game. As far as "playing into shape" goes, OF COURSE people are allowed to play into shape. There's preseason "in shape" and there's "playing shape", which comes with minutes, reps, and experiencing the flow/intensity of an NBA game, which can never be replicated in practice. That doesn't mean you put him in for 40 tomorrow, but 8 mins/game is a good start which can be titrated upward as situations allow. Once again, recall MJ's rustiness when he returned in the spring of '95. He had to play through that rust and eventually dropped 55 on the Knicks in the Garden. But even after that he had games where he just looked out of it, especially in the playoffs. Calm down: I didn't say T-Mac is MJ (if he could drop even half of 55 against the NYK, I'd be pleasantly surprised). But it does go to show you that players - especially stars in their 30s with a proven track record - are usually given the opportunity to play through the rustiness that accompanies recovery from a major injury (or a return from a two-year retirement).
Incorrect my good man. Teams looking to get out from under long term contracts and in financial difficulties will be offering up talent to get his contract. Maybe not top notch talent but talent nonetheless. The key will be whether Morey thinks it is a deal that makes the team better. The team is winning, he was told what to do in his 8 minutes to get more time, he didn't do it. Agreed, but if he is not part of the team's future, and the team is doing well, why play him at all? You say don't compare them, yet make a point trying to compare them... And again, the difference is that Tracy's contract is expiring, and he is not part of the future, the team has moved on....they no longer need him, and he is not skilled enough right now for the team to overlook his considerable baggage. DD
You make the guy look horrible. It seems like he has been really nothing but horrible. Actually he has shown pretty good speed. He has been giving 100% effort on defense - he has had better and worse games but he's been trying hard. And he has been a very good playmaker. I am not even gonna talk to you. It doesn't make sense.
Maybe it doesn't help as much as they'd like to, but when you consider the guy a 'cancer' just getting rid of him itself is a big thing and relief
It is a business, they will make the best business decision. Insurance covers his contract.....80% of it at least. Unless Tmac takes a massive cut...and that would be bad business, they are stuck with each other without a trade. DD
I think you can as per this example: http://www.nba.com/suns/news/pavlovic_buyout_091409.html "With the buyout of both players, the Suns were set to save about $18 million ($9 million in salary plus the dollar for dollar tax for being over the cap). "
Wow, you really are dense. It's breathtaking. "Maybe not top notch talent, but talent nonetheless." Why would anyone trade away talent for a player who is, in your words, "not capable"? Here, take our talent, and in exchange give us someone who is just not capable. "You say don't compare them, yet make a point trying to compare them...". I never said not to compare them. I wish you could read English. I said that T-Mac is not Jordan, but that Jordan is an example of a player who was allowed to play through the rust in game time. You had said that no one is allowed to do so. I can't believe you're given free reign to spew your ignorant filth on this board. How many Rox games have you been to?
I have to ask DD - where did your passionate dislike of T-Mac come from? I feel like I have seen hundreds of posts from you this season criticizing T-Mac's minimal play since he came back; his 'wild desire' to want to play this season before he came back; and constant attacks on T-Mac as if was some Brian Cook part II. Do you really feel T-Mac is that vile a player/person?
It happens all the time for financial reasons. Here's a recent example: http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_14050781 The Jazz were able to save more than $10 million by trading injured forward Matt Harpring to the Oklahoma City Thunder -- the one team with the salary-cap space to absorb his contract -- but also were forced to give up rookie first-round draft pick Eric Maynor. They received the draft rights to Peter Fehse, a second-round pick by Seattle in 2002 who plays in the German League. The Jazz have no immediate interest in signing Fehse, a 6-foot-11 big man who is little more than a placeholder in the deal. Harpring is all but officially retired, but he is still in the final year of his contract, making $6.5 million. Given the Jazz's payroll, Harpring would have cost them an additional $6.5 million in luxury-tax penalties at season's end. The Thunder were the lone team with the cap space to take on Harpring without having to send the Jazz players making approximately matching salaries in return. "To do that, we had to give up an asset, and that asset was Eric Maynor," Jazz general manager Kevin O'Connor explained at a news conference in Salt Lake City. "It was a difficult decision. We're disappointed that we had to do that. "But in these economic times, we saved a great deal of money and we're able to be aggressive still going forward." ... A Virginia Commonwealth product, Maynor was the No. 20 pick in June's draft and was averaging 5.2 points and 3.1 assists in 14 minutes a game as Deron Williams' backup. He filled in for Williams for two games in November and showed promise as a starter, totaling 13 points and 11 assists in a victory over Philadelphia and scoring 24 points in a loss to Cleveland, earning praise from LeBron James afterward.
