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[ESPN] The Dish on Point Guards

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by infinitidoug, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. jordnnnn

    jordnnnn Member

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    I hate to keep harping on ast %, but by all accounts it is a better indicator of a PG's ability to facilitate a team over assists/game.

    Just something I can't understand why the ardent Brooks defenders habitually overlook and understate. A short list of players rank among all PG's in AST% from that year.

    Lowry - 19th
    Dragic - 38th
    Rafer! - T47th
    Flynn - 55th
    Brooks - 59th

    I am not discounting what he DID do for us on the floor, but what he DID and what we NEED as a team are two very different things. We need a floor general and even in his "breakout", mip season his ability to make plays for others was just awful, despite of what his APG number said. Sure, he could have improved further in that area, but why hope for something to happen when you already have what you need on the bench?
     
  2. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Addressed your points.
     
  3. plutoblue11

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    Aaron would succeed on a team that does not need a traditional, ball-handling point guard. I hate to say this, but the ideal teams for him would be the Lakers or the Heat.


    He's a good shooter, he's also got burners, and can be a good scorer. It works better for him in a situation where he is not a facilitator and spotting up and taking advantages of defensive matchups.

    Lowry is a more reliable starter at point guard on a team that needs someone to run an offense, which is also lacking good defensive players on perimeter.
     
  4. chenjy9

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    I agree to this, but even then, until he realizes that he is not the scorer he seems to fancy himself as, this is not going to work for him either. He needs to accept that he is not the man or even the 2nd, 3rd, or possibly 4th and learn to play off the ball and focus on exploiting matches, he will never truly succeed.
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    There is some serious domination going on in this thread. So many people doubted Lowry, and he has rubbed it in all your faces, and most of you still won't own up to it.


    Pathetic...
    As I said from the very, very beginning, Lowry is a better player than Aaron Brooks, and he is a better player even If he averages 12 ppg and 6 apg... He plays the game the right way.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    Maybe AB is just better off the bench as instant offense.
     
  7. Carl Herrera

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    He's better off as a career backup. A black man's Jose Juan Barea.
     
  8. Outlier

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    Typical tmac_1 with his "i'm just gonna stop right now" when losing an argument.
     
  9. ParaSolid

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    I think he'd be fine as a 3rd option. You might be a little biased in your evaluation with respect to the requisite talent level of a 3rd option given the proliferation of big 3s in recent years. I think he'd be a good 3rd option on a stacked team though
     
  10. chenjy9

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    He can probably turn out to be a good 3rd option if he learns to play off the ball or if he is a system where he is the focal point coming off the bench. The problem is, will AB be willing to play off the ball like he did not do on the Rockets or will he be able land in a team where he is trusted to take over the offense as a 2nd stringer or will he continue to flounder as a speedy shooter with no other talents or abilities?
     
  11. TheFreak

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    No team "needs" a "traditional" point guard. Not sure why everyone seems to think otherwise.
     
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  12. napalm06

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    I still love me some Aaron Brooks basketball and whoever doesn't can suck it. This is my contribution to this thread.
     
  13. infinitidoug

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    well, as long as he scores haha
     
  14. t_mac1

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    +1. Looking at the last 20 NBA champions, only TWO teams had traditional PGs (pass-first PGs) as a starter (Dallas with JKidd this past season, and Rondo with Boston in 08).

    I can't stress enough that many people get so caught up in positional analysis, and criticize players by the position's restrictions.
     
  15. oakdogg

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    Kidd didn't even handle the ball most of the NBA Finals, it seemed like. Lots of the time it was Barea, who is very Brooks-like in my opinion.....

    t_mac1 is right regarding Brooks. Everyone should just acknowledge it and move on....
     
  16. chenjy9

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    Acknowledge what? That Brooks is an overrated one trick pony? Sure. I'll acknowledge that any day. Brooks did pretty good for us one season when we were desperate enough to rely on him as our primary scorer. That was it. He has neither the ability or mentality to play the PG position or a full time scorer. Any team that relies on him as a primary or secondary scoring option is in deep crap.
     
  17. larsv8

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    Or is the only Rockets team in the past decade that won a playoff series.
     
  18. CXbby

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    Yao was the primary scoring option on that team, with Artest as the secondary. Luis Scola was third. Brooks wasn't even the starter for most of that season. During the one playoff series we did win, Yao Ming of all people even had to pull Brooks aside to tell him to "play his ****ing role", in more or less similar words. Apparently even as the fourth option at best, he could barely do his job.
     
  19. VBG

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    Gotta disagree.

    Aaron Brooks' usage was 2nd after Artest in the playoffs for Houston. Well, 3rd behind Von Wafer but he didn't play as many minutes.

    Brooks averaged teh 2nd most PPG after Yao too.

    Brooks had multiple 25+ PPG in the playoffs.

    There's no way in hell Brooks was behind Scola as an option.
     
  20. sammy

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    LOL - go back and watch tape from last season. Moochie Norris-esque. What a scrub...he went like 1-15 in the 2 games against Houston.
     

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