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[ESPN] The Dish on Point Guards

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by infinitidoug, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    What you call arrogant, I call context....he was a career backup when the argument happened, he has sense proven to be a good starter.

    And IIRC, I was one of the first to eat crow, happily.

    The difference between me, and your other fellow DDingleberries, is that I am willing to move on, unlike you who have this one thing to fall back on constantly.

    You are like Al Bundy...hey remember that touhdown back in High school?

    Of course you never had one.....

    D
     
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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    PS. Gonna bail on this thread as it will quickly devolve into the DDingleberry haters club bringing up old tired crap that has no bearing on the actual thread.

    But, of course, it is all my fault......lol....

    ;)

    DD
     
  3. CXbby

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    Of course you are willing to move on. If I had your track record on here, I wouldn't be able to wait to move on too.
     
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  4. jordnnnn

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    What I don't understand is how ranking 59th among all PGs in assist rate is considered decent.
     
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  5. snc

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    Normal Person After Being Wrong
    Aaron really let me down, I really thought he would be multi-year all-star for us. And Lowry really surprised me with his improved game and leadership.

    DaDaKota After Being Wrong
    Well, I can understand how you could be confused and think I am wrong, but I have my own secret definition for "career back-up" that no one else has.


    Maybe you're not more wrong than anyone else (you probably are, but that's not really the point). You're so effing loud about it and obnoxious when you are wrong that it isn't any wonder people bring it up.
     
  6. The_Yoyo

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    GET IT RIGHT FOR ONCE! JESUS CHRIST!


    4 TOUCHDOWNS

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  7. t_mac1

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    I don't get why people go crazy over the "underrated" label. If Lowry is truly who a lot of people on this board think he is, people will appreciate him for who he is.

    To me, 1 month of great play isn't something to go ga-ga over. Brooks did it for a year. Adelman made a lot of players better than they really are offensively.
     
  8. CXbby

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    Brooks did what for a year? Even at his best he was the definition of overrated, or "fool's gold" as some would like to call it. That is why some people wanted Lowry to start even then. Last year's Lowry, the entire year, was better than Brooks at any point in his career. That 1 month of great play you are talking about was the best PG play the Rockets have seen the last 30 years.
     
  9. infinitidoug

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    He has been good for a while, even as a backup to AB. For the year he started, he was an outstanding PG. For that one month that you point out, he went above and beyond unless you think a triple double was good at best
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    I don't remember that, but it sounds like Lowry.

    I actually think Memphis is happy with Conley, though. He had a nice year last year, kind of Lowry-like in his improvement.
     
  11. RedRedemption

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    This ESPN idiot is driving up the value on all our players. :(
    We won't be able to afford anything during their respective free agencies!
     
  12. johnstarks

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    That was beautiful.
     
  13. johnstarks

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    I don't have any stake in being either pro- or anti-DD. I think DD haters are kinda pathetic too.

    But I think it might help you DD to think about why people are piling on you in this thread as in other threads in the past. You have a tendency to be very emphatic in your claims and predictions, which can be read as overconfident. What makes people pile on you is not that you are wrong. Everyone on this board has made wrong predictions. Where you get into trouble is that you not only make these really emphatic claims as fact, but that you don't own up to them. If you're wrong, the best thing to do is just own it and say, 'yep, I missed that one.' rather than try to say you said something else. You need to resist the inclination to dig in your heels and I'm pretty sure people won't be piling on you as much.

    Just my 2 cents. On the other hand, I find it entertaining that people get all hot and bothered up on a board.
     
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    Excellent post.
    ****ty post.
     
  15. t_mac1

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    Are you even serious with this post? The guy put up nearly 20 ppg with 5 dimes and you're not even acknowledging that? Pathetic.

    AB was the scapegoat (as many on here like to pick one player and just go at that player; it's a tradition) last year b/c he was our best player that year, despite his many flaws.

    A lot of people also wanted to bench Yao and continue to start Deke a few years ago, so should we take their opinions seriously? Opinions are opinions, but AB was phenomenal 2 years ago for us.

    I put what Lowry did similarly to what Collison did with the Hornets. Nobody expected Lowry to do what he did, and teams didn't really gameplan for him, same case with Collison. There is a reason many guys in this league could put up spurts of great play. But not many can do it over a few months, let alone one whole season.

    And that whole month was the best PG play you've seen in the last 30 years for the Rockets? Get out of here with that.

    In 00-01, Stevie carried us to a 45-37 record putting up 20, 7, 7 with 2 steals. But I'm sure you're not going to acknowledge what Steve did that year too am I right?

    Kyle Lowry was a good starter for 85% of the games he started, and was great for a month stretch (fell back to earth after that). He is who he is: a good starter, nothing more, nothing less.


    Lowry put up 9 points, 5 dimes on 40%fg the year he backed up AB. He was a good backup. Last year in the games he started, 14ppg, 7apg, on 43%fg. That's good starter material. If you consider that "outstanding," I don't know what standards you have for a PG.

    I admitted that one month he was spectacular. He put up 20, 5, 8 on 48% fg (that fg% was pretty much his career best shooting b/c he won't shoot that % very frequently--as the next month, he fell back to shooting 33% in 4 games). Lowry is a very good starter, and I don't mind him starting for us.

    But for people to use one great month to discredit an entire year by AB, which was pretty damn good. You don't see a 20/5 PG very often.

    EDIT: But just for everyone to know, I am not jocking AB. Unlike DD and a few others, I was not part of the "AB will be an all-star" bandwagon. I just hope people appreciate what AB did for us the year when nobody expected us to do anything (we had less talent that year, than this previous season as we had KMART the whole year last year).
     
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  16. Carl Herrera

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    I have a feeling that Kevin McHale will help Kyle Lowry's game. KMac was a career backup until age 28 so he knows what it feels like to be a career backup. In fact, I'd say Kyle Lowry was way ahead of the KMac development curve because Kyle stopped being a career backup at age 24.
     
  17. iconoclastic

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    IN A SINGLE GAME!!!
     
  18. rolyat93

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    I'd really like to see Kyle develop a post-up game.Ala Chauncey, we saw him use it a few times but I think if he honed it would really diversify his offensive game.
     
  19. moestavern19

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    Remember how many people were livid that we gave up Rafer for Lowry?
     
  20. Carl Herrera

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    And they were right, Lowry was a career backup and a career inknown commodity at that point.
     

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