You know who else trained at ATTACK? Eddy Curry, who's just about eaten himself out of the league. I believe Grover's working with Arenas, Tmac, and Jermaine O'Neal. I don't think he can fix them all. Wade was one thing; he had one injury plagued season. The older stars he's working with now have been on and off the IR for years.
Yao's problem is that he is 7-6 310. Unless Tim grover can change the laws of gravity not much anyone can do about it.
now, the question is should we send Yao (or the whole team) to Grover? Seems Grover's remedy dose prevent injuries.
That's crazy the amount of momentum and swing that Hall has T-Mac use for those dumbbell laterals with such poor form. The forces on his lower back would strain his lower back. It hurts my back to think of even swinging my back up and down while doing laterals like Wayne Hall is advising.
Knowing nothing about Tim Grover, T-Mac has said all these things about feeling healthy more than once in the past. Right now it still sounds like a joint PR effort, and even as a PR maneuver it's not very effective. Frankly I'll believe it when I see it. And the fact that he keeps talking about being a "7-time all-star" frustrates me, because he sounds as if he's satisfied with just that. It only reinforces the impression scouts have of him as one of the most underachieving over-talented players in the history of the game. And to not play any basketball in the offseason...how much talent must be in this guy's hands for him to misuse it so much yet still be able to shoot...oh wait he's actually a pretty crappy shooter from 3pt land. Streakiness is the sign of talent without the practice to turn it into consistency.
as hinted in the post, a balanced body and good movement pattern may decrease the wear and tear on a troubled bone/joint.
You're right, guy. It was all Wayne Hall's and god's fault. McGrady has been a hard-working professional from the beginning.
Hakeem started doing cross training and felt "years younger" towards the end of his career, too. You take time off, you feel great, too. You do different training programs, you feel invigorated, but you're not going to become a better player. I read this and three things come to mind: 1. Promoting Tim. This is part of every service; you give the guy a good referral or recommendation when you're done if you liked the service. There's a similar article regarding Gilbert Arenas and how Tim Grover helped him too. 2. "Feeling better". After months of new training routines, Tracy probably does feel better. Like Barkley said when Pippen was trying to make a comeback: "You might feel better, but you're not a better player". This is good for his endurance and ability to play in the NBA for extra years, but I don't think you can turn back a clock. It's like anti-aging creams; they can help you look good for longer, but you won't look younger. 3. Hype. When you haven't played for a long time, you need to hype yourself up.
He was bending right above his hips and keep his back straight. We also didn't see all of that set so he may have been using the momentum to squeeze out extra reps. I'm not saying that's great for a guy with scoliosis but his "poor form" in that video is overstated.
If you have ever even tried basic weight lifting for the average joe, not even strength and quick twitch explosion training for athletes, while injured, you will know that reinforcing the same damaging motions basically perpetuates an endless cycle. With the course he was following, had he not "slacked" due to the pain, he would have most likely destroyed his body even further. He would have lost the excess weight on his face though so I guess the fans would have been happy nonetheless. You are probably right. It just seems to me that they were completely oblivious to what has been taking place and merely assumed these injuries were just a normal case of time taking its toll on Tracy's body. The organization's entire handling of medical circumstances just reeks of gross incompetence, from this to of course the conflicting nature of Yao's various MRI results. Consider that myself and a few others here are just normal fans with zero access or affiliation to the team, and upon merely watching a few seconds of a youtube training video with Wayne Hall, collectively threw up in our mouths and identified the egregious incompetence. I mean that made me absolutely cringe when I first saw it a year or so ago, whenever it came out, and I recall many others expressed their horror immediately. Its just infuriating that this was so obvious to everyone else and the team had no idea what was taking place. This is literally like having someone take your prize race horse and feed it all kinds of crap while neutral observers watch in horror, and just sit back idly expressing confusion over why her performance has noticeably declined. tracy, and most of these athletes, are like children. they don't know what is best for them and they willingly put their trust in others to ensure their well-being. the organization, as his guardian, should have had some sort of clue. note to anyone on this board: if you are ever shopping for a personal trainer, it would probably make sense to hire someone who is actually in decent shape himself.
Tracy will never be truely in the upper echelon in the league because he really does not have that unadulterated love for the game where he has to play it. Also, he seems to have been satisfied with his accomplishments, not wanting to truely be the best...
He comes off as a complete douchebag with the "I was an All-Star 7 out of my 12 years, so I guess it worked for me, teehee!" That guy makes it incredibly difficult to defend him every time he opens his mouth with his lack of competent articulation, though I do think he is in the right on this one. Individual focused skills training is much more beneficial than running pickup games.
First, don't pretend to have any idea of how much knowledge or experience I have with weightlifting. Second, if it was the training that ruined his back then why did his back suddenly heal after going to the Dr. in Waco while continuing to work with the same trainer?
What do you mean? The whole body works in conjunction to each individual part. I don't know anything about the therapy with the Waco guy, but it doesn't come as a shock that after localized attention to one area, after returning to reinforcing the same damaging behaviors, the body would respond by merely compensating in other areas, in turn breaking those down as well. I think the most telling part of that article was when he explained how weak Tracy's "core" is. That's bad news for any normal Joe doing complicated lifts, and I would imagine suicide for a professional athlete doing explosion training.
This made me LOL. Its a good article, but at the end of the day, even with a healthy TMAC, we've never made it outta the first round....so even though I'm slightly excited reading and watching youtube videos of TMAC's comeback, I'm not getting overly optimistic about the whole situation...
What's really interesting to me is that McGrady always spoke of having a very good core. There was a quote in an article not too long ago (either this year, or last) where he said something along the lines of: "I'm still going because I've always worked out my core and it's strong." So, it's really something that McGrady's own assumption about his core being his biggest strength was completely blown away by Grover when he said that his core is incredibly weak..
You pretend to know things about NBA players all of the time. What's the difference? Also: of course you don't lift weights.
