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ESPN sources say Clippers lobbying DeAndre Jordan to reverse his decision to join Dallas

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Amel, Jul 8, 2015.

  1. malakas

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    jeez that paul pierce "article" is annoying af. I already disliked the clippers now I'm going to actively root against them and "hate" them. A roster full of assholes and punks.
     
  2. Zboy

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    Who (other than Mavs fans) isnt mighty glad that Cuban got unintentionally screwed but his buddy Fegan?

    #karma
     
  3. roslolian

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    Well tbh I don't really have a prpblem with DJ backing out on the deal. A verbal commitment is just that, if you required to go through with your verbal commitments then whats the point of putting things down on paper? This happens a lot in the real world as well, you can say yes to a job offer but the company won't finalize it until you actually sign the contract. If you call them after your verbal agreement but before you sign to say you changed your mind it shouldnt be that big a deal.

    What I have an issue with is how DJ wouldnt meet up or even talk to Cuban about his decision. Once he knew he was sticking with Clipps DJ shouldve informed Cubes immediately instead of refusing to communicate at all or pretending to have a date just to avoid meeting him. Maybe Fegan did go over his head with Cuban, but according to Cubes they were already texting and DJ told him he was excited to become a Mav so its not like DJ didnt know what was going on. Hiding for him is totally unprofessional and the way the whole thing went down makes him look like a ****ing kid just wanting attention and to be loved (major lol) by Cp3 and Griffin.

    What happens when the Cp3 starts freezing him out again and high fives everyone but him at timeouts? Is he gonna cry and then reach out to OKC? LOLOLOLOL DJ just destroyed all his credibility I wouldnt be surprised if every NBA player out there is laughing at him right now. Hell even CP3 is probably laughing at him deep inside.
     
  4. JeffB

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    The report I heard states it was someone else from the agency in the room; just not Fegan. But who knows really?
     
  5. zeeshan2

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    [Charania] UFA Joel Freeland has declined Mavs' 3-year, $6M+ offer, signing a lucrative 2-year deal with CSKA Moscow (twitter.com)
     
  6. JeffB

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    The professional thing is for Jordan's agent to contact Cuban and inform him of the change of heart. Just as the agent informed Doc Rivers.

    It would have been very gentlemanly to talk to Cuban directly, yes. But instead of thinking this makes Jordan some sleezeball, I strongly suspect Jordan had reasons other than cowardice or lack of professionalism. It wasn't unprofessional to leave Doc ( who was quite an emotional anchor for the team during the Sterling debacle) hanging was it? It was business. I do think Jordan should have called Cuban, though. But I ain't judging him for not doing so.

    There is a story there we know nothing of. But there is little doubt Fegan is at the center.
     
  7. roslolian

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    Iirc the contract was signed without even Fegan being there so how can he confirm it to Cuban DJ probably didn't talk to him as well. He left Doc hanging but he also didn't give his verbal commitment to Doc, are you really gonna argue its the same thing with Cuban? Free agency isn't over yet of course Doc was gonna be left hanging, however once DJ gave his verbal commitment Vegan did the right thing and informed Doc. However DJ didn't even have the decency to do the same for Cuban.

    Honestly I'm not sure why you keep trying to pin the blame on Fegan and make DJ the victim here. Fegan is tied to his clients, the more they benefit the more he benefits so why are you trying to make it like he's trying to intentionally screw DJ? DJ knew he was going to the Mavs he was already in constant communication with Cuban. In Dallas he would've been the centerpiece and the new face of the franchise, he makes even more $$$ due to the 0 income tax in texas how is arranging for him to go to Dallas and away from being the 3rd wheel supposed to be bad for him?
     
  8. Awesome

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    Fegan's agency was present of course and informed, so he absolutely knew.
     
  9. Hakeemtheking

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    This saga has become something people will remember for years. I am still lolling recalling the events.

    On the serious side, Fegan gets a black eye for trying to steer his client to a destination he may not have wanted after all. Huge conflict here. As an agent, Fegan has a fiduciary duty to represent Jordan's best interests, not Cuban.

    Jordan also gets a black eye. I know 5 feet tall skinny women with more fortitude than him. Give the professional courtesy to pick up the damn phone and tell the guy who was about to make you super rich, thanks but no thanks. It is not hard not too be a p***y, Jordan.

    Lastly, Cuban and Parsons get deliciously embarrassed by the whole fiasco, like the bride being left at the altar. Lol.
     
  10. roslolian

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    The stories of DJ getting froze out by CP3 weren't made up by Fegan, it came from DJ himself and a narration of events that happened in DJ's house said that CP3 "didn't know DJ felt that way about him." Also DJ was aware he was going to the Mavs, hell he gave his verbal commitment after all so it's not like he didn't want to go to the Mavs in the first place, the Clipps just changed his mind.

    Call me strange but I honestly don't think Fegan taking DJ out of a 3rd wheel situation and putting him in a new team that would make him the face of their franchise is him screwing DJ, most likely DJ didn't tell Fegan that he only wanted a hug and some attention from CP3. Even Fegan's relationship with Cuban was done of behalf of his clients, guys like Parsons, that indian guy and DJ would benefitted greatly from Fegan's close relationship with Cuban.
     
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    Tmz Sports; Tyson chandler says Parsons is butt hurt:

    DeAndre Jordan shouldn't take Chandler Parson's insults seriously -- he's just "butthurt" that he couldn't convince him to stay with the Mavs ... so says NBA star Tyson Chandler.

    Tyson's definitely the right guy to ask about the Jordan drama -- not only is he the guy Jordan was supposed to replace in Dallas ... but he's also pretty tight with Mark Cuban and Chandler Parsons.

    Chandler was pretty candid about the whole situation ... saying the way things went down were "a little iffy" ... but says at the end of the day, "Every man has his own right to make his own decision."

    As for Dallas Mavs star Chandler Parsons -- he's been ripping DeAndre in the media ... saying D.J. went back to the Clippers because he's too "scared" to be a franchise player.

    But Tyson says that's not really Chandler talkin', it's the butthurt ... and he'll get over it.
     
  12. Airdough

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    It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this whole episode galvanized the Clippers and finally propelled them past the second round. Doc might not be the technician that Pop is but he knows how to use events like this to fuel and motivate his team.
     
  13. JeffB

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    Jordan is no victim and is no sleezeball. Why do so many insist on not seeing Fegan's obvious failure in this? Why do so many insist on ignoring how professional negotiations are generally held and not see that both Jordan and his agent bungled this process?

    We have heard the stories about Fegan and how he does business. We know how much he didn't want Howard with the Rockets but with Cuban. We saw the butt hurt Fegan pouting during Howard's press conference. We know how he brokered the Parson early release and subsequent move to Cuban.

    I do not believe Fegan always has his clients best interests at heart. That he oversaw this entire debacle in which his client obviously lost faith in his counsel is not lost on me.

    All this hate on Jordan, but what about Fegan? Jordan is a grown ass man who bungled his own free agency. But, especially given the obsessive hate he is receiving, it took guts to walk away from that deal. I find it hilarious but I won't judge the man for not calling Cuban himself. As the pros in the industry have stated: that is the agent's job. You know, the guy who has mysteriously become invisible in this.

    How is this bad for Jordan? Have you not paid attention? Jordan didn't want to leave the team he was with for his career. Plain and simple. Money isn't everything. Jordan is rich as a mofo no matter who he plays for. No one is claiming the kid didn't know about the deal. Don't be disingenuous. The claim is Jordan got bad advice. And clearly advice counter to his desires. And the speculation is that one of the most powerful and sleaziest agents in the biz may have been putting his relationship with Cuban over and above his clients interests.

    My agenda is simple: don't let Fegan become invisible. This is on him, too. And shame on ESPN for not pursuing this angle more. Report on all the players involved in this thing. Not just the drama that is most easily consumable by viewers.
     
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  14. UtilityPlayer

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    DJ wanted the love from CP3 & Co. He got it , he has a chance to win a title in LA now. Pierce was a great signing .
     
  15. JeffB

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    If this is true, this is one of the most important aspects of the story. It is a sign of a breakdown between client and agent. Fegan could have dumped Jordan in this, just as Jordan could be the one who dumped Fegan. Who knows?

    Anyway it goes, presuming it is true that in the end Fegan himself was limited in his involvement, there is a story there. And perhaps, THE story. As most of complaints so far are about Jordan not acting as his own agent with an agent's professionalism.

    Parsons is visible. Jordan is obviously visible. Cuban is always visible AND heard. Fega, the power broker who negotiated the initial deal, should be, also. They all have him in common.
     
  16. sew

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    Lol. What a half-assed, insincere apology by DJ. That's probably going to piss off Mavs fans even more.

    Glorious.
     
  17. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mavs owner Mark Cuban, via his Cyber Dust app, makes it clear he's not impressed with DeAndre Jordan's apology. <a href="http://t.co/ToI8RQelZ6">pic.twitter.com/ToI8RQelZ6</a></p>&mdash; Sam Amick (@sam_amick) <a href="https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/619914863301648384">July 11, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  18. Awesome

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    Relativity sports was present because players cannot rep themselves. Can't remember exactly what they said it was, a VP or something like that, but they were there.



    Also, Cuban is gonna have to shut up soon, he's looking really bad the more he jabbers as an owner.
     
  19. shastarocket

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    Cuban will never shut up about this. He was able to turn this saga into the biggest story of the offseason and is getting a ton of free publicity.
     
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    this day will long live in the memory
     

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