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[ESPN Rumor] Oswalt on trading block

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by LonghornFan, Apr 23, 2008.

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  1. ivanyy2000

    ivanyy2000 Member

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    You can have A-Rod and the rights to pay him 28M per for 10 years. I will do the trade in a heartbeat.
     
  2. johnmvp

    johnmvp Rookie

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    You have A-Rod then we have a new Texas Rangers. Great hitting, score 10 runs a game but our pitching staff gives up 15 runs a game.
     
  3. Major

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    Depends on the demand. Randy Johnson cost us a few good prospects - and that was for a half-season of a Randy Johnson having a terrible season. With Roy, you get him for a couple of years. To get freaking Victor Zambrano, the Mets traded away super-prospect Scott Kazmir. The Marlins have had an amazing run of trades - Josh Beckett got them Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez (who looked really good until an arm injury).

    But beyond that, if you're going to go this route, you don't just trade Roy. You have to make an all-out commitment - trade Berkman, Lee, Tejada, etc and get a handful of top-level prospects and lots of mid-range prospects, hoping a few pan out. There's no point in trading your ace pitcher but keeping the other components. You choose to either compete 2-4 years down the road, or compete now. If you pick the latter, you keep 'em all. If you choose the former, you try to trade them all.

    The idea would be that you get several really good players out of the mix - and have them for 5 years at low cost. And then once they get to the majors, you've cleared $60MM in salary room to go sign a handful of free agents or to keep Pence and others.
     
  4. rocketballin

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    Miguel Tejada is another player that is an embarresmant.. How can u not look at that over the hill SS and not cringe... Hes the only guy on the Astros i truley despise... He should be the guy u guys are trying to trade.. With all the steroid talk, and his declining play, and his age contraversy, its hard to like a guy like that. I want his ass out of Texas... go back to Baltimore.. Hell, go to Canada, please.
     
  5. The Cat

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    Uhm, Tejada is hitting .349 with a .385 OBP, .965 OPS with 17 extra-base hits in barely over a month. Declining play, over the hill? Have you even watched or looked at a game this entire season?
     
  6. Major

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    Umm, his batting average, on-base %, and slugging % (and thus OPS) right now are all higher than any year in his career. What is the declining play you're referring to?
     
  7. Major

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    Damn you, The Cat! :)
     
  8. Oski2005

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    Do you actually watch the Astros?
     
  9. rocketballin

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    Nope they actually bore me... Tejada is just having a good month.. wait till you really need him down the stretch.. CHOKE!!!!

    I respect Lance, and Carlos Lee alot more than Tejada. The guy is a cheater.. and loser.. his whole career hes been a loser, and hell always be a loser.
     
  10. rocketballin

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    I'd rather watch grass grow than the Astros actually.. I can't see how they can be appealing to anyone outside of Houston. Baseball in general is boring unless it's your team playing, but the Stros take it to a new level. I mean I'd rather watch the Reds, or Brewers, or the CC Hooks play lol than the Stros.. I dunno what franchise I hate more.. The Spurs, Jazz, or Asstros. Its a tossup
     
  11. The Cat

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    Tejada was in the pennant race "down the stretch" his last three seasons in Oakland. Here were his September results:

    2003: .319 average, .404 OBP, .876 OPS
    2002: .313 average, .373 OBP, .888 OPS
    2001: .329 average, .429 OBP, 1.000 OPS

    Or perhaps you meant down the stretch in games. Here's his close and late performance over recent years:

    2008: .333 average, .381 OBP, 1.325 OPS
    2007: .282 average, .400 OBP, .837 OPS
    2006: .338 average, .421 OBP, .821 OPS
    2005: .290 average, .338 OBP, .918 OPS
    2004: .321 average, .367 OBP, .891 OPS

    What a choker. :rolleyes: You were saying?
     
  12. junglerules

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    Why are you posting in a thread about the Astros then? You are bored by them, and you hate baseball, and you hate them....Don't take this personally, but you are a loser. You know, no offense....

    Seriously, discussion and thoughtful dissent is appreciated, or at least respected. But your contribution has been comparable to pet vomit on my apartment floor....We won't be offended if you go away. We will survive somehow, I promise....
     
  13. ruddy

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    So then get your butt out of here...
     
  14. rocketballin

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    I dont hate baseball.. Im just annoyed by the Astros... I compare them to the Spurs of baseball... Go around Texas and all u get is AHoles who love the Spurs.. Same ***** with the Astros... Its like they are Texas' adopted baseball team.. LIke hey I live in Texas let me just choose the team who always wins..Spurs fan mentallity... So you guys are kinda like Spurs fans if you think about it.. Its just a different sport.. only difference is the Championships lol...

    Loser?? You dont even know me personally.. So how can you even say something like that :rolleyes:

    Atleast we all have something in Common, and thats why this website even exsists.. The Houston Rockets.. Live and Die with them through thick and through thin.. and well I'm not going away so sorry.
     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So did you just write that folks who love the Astros are "Aholes"?

    I am personally offended by that and I suspect a lot (notice my correct usage of "a lot") of other folks are as well.
     
  16. Hmm

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    or maybe.. they(those outside of Houston, in Texas) like the Astros.. because they have more history than the only other professional baseball team in the state..?
     
  17. Hmm

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    in other words.. your analogy sux ^
     
  18. Oski2005

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    Still making no sense. How are we like people from all over Texas that jump on the Spurs bandwagon when we are all most likely HOUSTONIANS in here? You can go back to sniffing glue, we won't miss you.
     
  19. msn

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    (warning: tongue-in-cheek post follows)

    WHOAWHOAWHOA-fricken-WHOA there: You just lumped the Astros in with the Jazz?????

    The damned &*@*#$*@ JAZZHOLES??????

    Sure the Astros have sucked since 2006. Sure, some folks may not prefer baseball to other sports which seem to have a quicker pace. But you crossed the line buddy. The JAZZ??? I think I speak for every fan of Houston sports when I say to you:

    KISS MY HOUSTONIAN ASS. :p
     
  20. Refman

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    Posting about how much you hate the Astros in a thread about the team makes you a....

    TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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