Why would you trade your ACE? when you need to build pitching to win Is easier to replace hitting than pitching
If they trade one stud, they might as well trade them all. And why wasn't this done in the off season, while his value was highest?
If the rumor was real then he would have been. We were expected to be a mediocre team and thus far that's exactly how we've performed. We're not performing below expectations so why would we all of a sudden make changes we weren't willing to make in the offseason?
If you traded Roy, who do you think you are going to get? IF the Astros are out of it and the other teams know it, why would they give a King's ransom for ROY? There is no magic formula to fixing what Pupura did to this farm system. I have no desire to go back to those days of when McMullen owned the team and trotted out a AAA team because he traded or let go all the high priced players. Those teams were hard to watch and even harder to enjoy. Some of you may not remember those days but I do. Our Current Astros team would destroy those teams. We are not as bad as people think. Lets stay the course and stop listening to that blowhard Gammons. The next time he is right, will be the first
Exactly. McLane will never do the same (trotting out a AAA team). He knows that doesn't sell tickets.
1) Gammons is almost NEVER accurate 2) Roy has a NTC and I'm pretty sure he's said before he doesn't want to pitch in nY hasn't he? 3) If you were to trade him, the Yankees have a lot of talent they could give back. 4) But, the Yankees were unwilling to give up their young talent for Johan Santana, who was younger, better, and left handed. They refused. I don't see why they'd do it for Oswalt now.
maybe because now they see how bad their rotation actually does suck? (kidding...i don't think this is gonna happen, either)
They'd do it for Oswalt because of his contract. I suspect they would get as much value for Oswalt as what was being offered for Santana.
It got started again by a totally speculative blurb by a reporter in NY Newsday 2 days before Granny Gammons's senile throw-****-on-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks ramblings. It is, as I said earlier, complete b.s.
Even if they got (and kept) players of the caliber when they traded Glenn Davis to the Orioles (Harnisch, Schilling, Finley)?
I didn't especially like what the Twins for for Santana. Phillip Humber - struggling in AAA, and will be 26 at the end of the year. His strikout to innings pitched last year at AAA wasn't great. He's already had Tommy John surgery and had a sore shoulder before the 2007 season. I don't think he ever becomes a #1 starter. Deolis Guerra - looks great, but he's only pitching in high-A. very promising, but won't be in the majors until late 2009 at the earliest. Carlos Gomez - he'll be 23 at the end of the year. Has played well at all levels, but doesn't hit for a high average or a lot of power. He does steal a lot of bases. He could develop power as he matures. best of the guys they got. Kevin Mulvey - Starter with good stuff, but won't be an ace. Low 90s fastball, doesn't K a lot of batters. The Twins traded the best LH starter in the league, and didn't get the Mets #1 hitting prospect.
Maybe, but what they were offering for Johan was Ian Kennedy and Melky Cabrera and some lower level prospects. Ian K would be the best prospect the Astros have had in awhile, but he's not in Roy O's league.
The current talk maybe rumor but at some point trading Roy may become a reality. Let's face it, he's not going to pitch forever so if we can get max return for him, he will still be effective otherwise what team would want him, so he will still pitch a few more years after the trade...
I think the most compelling reasons to not atleast shop Oswalt would be purely sentimental and from a public relations standpoint. Rationally speaking, while he's still better than 99% of baseball, his best days are behind him. With a team not likely to contend, with no viable prospects in the minors, and some payroll constraints, it would only make sense to try and get a return from your top commodity before the returns diminish. With Santana off the market, and taking Oswalt's contract and big game experience into consideration, one could make the argument that at the deadline, there isn't a single veteran player in baseball who would fetch more in a deal than Roy. Then again, the flip side is that it's baseball. Any team can get hot at any time and steal a pennant with an underwhelming cast of characters stepping up. Maybe it's our year. Why throw away that chance?
If we made this trade, it'd have to be seen as giving up for the immediate future. By the time the prospects we got mature, our dominant hitters would all be on their last legs. Like Bagwell in '04. Trade everybody or trade no one. Reload or rebuild. As long as we're committed to reloading as we've said during every off-season, we can't trade Roy.
I would be disappointed if the Astros didn't 'auction' off Roy O for a great passel of young talent. Can they identify same? That may be the question...
