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I hope they keep Howard and get rid of MoT.

Kurt Thomas would of been a nice asset to this squad.

Jerome Williams, don't see it.

Damn, Francis is getting screwed everywhere he goes.

 

I'd trade either of our two PFs for Thomas in a second. I'd even through in our first round pick this summer. That being said, I'd be surprised if Isiah is looking at either of our two David Falk-represented PFs.

 

Howard for Kurt Thomas sounds good to me. Anyone know how long and how big Thomas's contract is.

 

I think I heard that Howard is a leader in the club house (I think it was the Tmac radio interview) - Mo T is a distraction

if they are move Mo for Williams - I am fine with that

 

How about getting rid of both JH and Mo?

I will even do a JH + first round for KT at this stage.

 

Houston trades: PF Juwan Howard (8.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 24.9 minutes)
Houston receives: C Kurt Thomas (11.4 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 36.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +2.5 ppg, +4.8 rpg, and +0.6 apg.

New York trades: C Kurt Thomas (11.4 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 36.9 minutes)
New York receives: PF Juwan Howard (8.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 24.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -2.5 ppg, -4.8 rpg, and -0.6 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to Houston and New York being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and New York had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.



They both have 4 more years remaing on there LONGG contracts. Pretty much both of them are getting payed the same amount so I'd pull the trigger on the trade. I'v allways like Kurt Thomas!

 

Thomas' contract is just as long as Howard's and just a tad less. If we trade for Kurt, it would have to be Juwon in the swap, otherwise we would be left with two PFs on the wrong side of 30 with long deals. Basically, a swap of Howard for Thomas, is even contract-wise, but just gets us a little better fit.

 

trade MoT. Don't break the team's chemistry.

 

Thanks for the info and the post Gator...I'm kinda hesistant to trade Howard...probably for the reasons of the recent Rockets good play and the efforts he puts forth...arg...I wish MoT was the principal prospect to be traded.

 

what is Jerome Williams contract like? if it is shorter than Mos, I wouldnt mind swapping for that either

 

I would think that we would place higher priority on the point guard position.

-- droxford

 

MoT for Jerome Williams.

Sign me up.

Jerome has always been one of my top 5 favorite players in the league. He outhustles most anyone, and the few times he was able to start for a team, he averaged 10+rpg.

 

trade them both if you have to - Howard is the only one that I can't get used to in a rockets uni

Houston trades: PF Maurice Taylor (7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.8 minutes)
PF Juwan Howard (8.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 24.9 minutes)
Houston receives: C Kurt Thomas (11.4 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 36.9 minutes)
PF Jerome Williams (4.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.5 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -0.6 ppg, +4.2 rpg, and -0.2 apg.

New York trades: C Kurt Thomas (11.4 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 36.9 minutes)
PF Jerome Williams (4.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.5 minutes)
New York receives: PF Maurice Taylor (7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.8 minutes)
PF Juwan Howard (8.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 24.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.6 ppg, -4.2 rpg, and +0.2 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to Houston and New York being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and New York had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

 

how about bring stevie back.... MoT, Spoon, 2 # 1's(05,07) for SF and Augmon ....realgm says it works...hehehe....but it's just wishful thinking...


MoT + 1st(05) + 2 2nd(06, 07) for KT + 1st(06) i'd do......Howard I don't want to get rid of, b/c he seems more of a team player....

 

My guess is the thinking is bringing in a new full-time PG would cause more growing pains at this point in the season. If you bring in a backup, is he really gonna contribute more than say Jon Barry? That's why Derek Anderson, who actually is somewhat similar to Sura in that he's more of a pseudo PG than an actual one, but also can contribute spelling TMac, is probably being thrown around.

I'm not a big Kurt Thomas fan...but when I watch this team, I find myself thinking "if only we had a physical rebounder/defender to pair with Yao that can still bury teams with open mid range jumpers like Juwan". That's Kurt Thomas in a nutshell.

 

we need to keep howard. he is better in the offense and clubhouse. plus howard's contract really isn't that bad.

 

His contract IS that bad. It runs through 2009. Then again, if Kurt Thomas' does as well, it's probably not worth disrupting team chemistry with another trade.

Mo Taylor would be the best player to move since he's contributing nothing right now. That can only improve the team and the chemistry.

 

There is no way the Knicks would trade us Kurt Thomas straight up for Juwan Howard.

 

Well, both rumors regard both of our PFs going to different teams... Maybe we give up JH + ? for KT AND MoT + ? for DA... Wow, what a team that would be!!! And its not that unrealistic! Check it out:

Yao, Deke
KT, Padgett, Spoon
T-Mac, DA, Bowen
Wesley, DA, Barry
Sura, Strickland, Barry, Barrett

P.S. How did we let another Texas product in KT slip through our hands on draft day?!?