[ESPN] Rox possibly looking for a S&T for Walker?

That's interesting. But again, you guys are selling CD and JVG short.

If Toine is asking to come here...he knows JVG's reputation.

JVG know's Toine's reputation too. JVG will rip out Toine's heart and eat it if he disobeys him...Toine knows it and JVG knows it. If JVG approves this deal, then I'm satisfied everybody is on the same page.

 

I agree. Cat for the MLE is a steal. Do you think he would go to Denver over Houston if we both offered the same deal?

 

They said TMac couldn't play defense either. Besides, Rox are already a top rated defensive team. Lack of offense was a much bigger problem.

Chokes? He lives for the big shot and has come up big before. I'm sure he isn't 100% but who is?

Can't shoot? He's a scorer! Yes, not a pure shooter...but he IS a scorer and you are just being biased if you disagree with that.

Misses FT's? Fine, don't run plays for him at the end...run them, rightfully, through TMac and Yao. There, that problem is solved.

Howard is better? Fine, then let JHow finish games...if he's playing better. I've got no problem with that. But it would be nice to have a more consistent scorer on our team. We were one of the bottom teams in the league in offense last season...another scorer would make a big difference.

 

Cuttino wants more than MLE doesn't he?

If we can get Antoine Walker in a Sign & Trade for Weatherspoon and a 1st round and Wesley or something..HECK YES. He's still a very good player..and I think he understands what needs to be done.

And then we have full MLE to go after SG/SF!!! Finley!!! or somebody else.

Exciting

 

One thing I found funny reading a Boston board is one guy said Walker is better than Howard but our team would be worse with Walker!

 

Isn't he after a long term contract? At 30, he doesn't have much time before his game starts to go.

 

My thoughts exactly Bigboy... I would love to have Cat back. While were at it when does Cato's contract expire?

 

I am officially off the Antoine Walker bandwagon, until I hear otherwise about his attitude and priorities. Those quotes are eye-opening. He really is the second coming of Steve Francis (in a bad way). I think the point about efficiency is important. Everything I've heard about him from Celtics fans is that he is inefficient, turnover prone, and that you don't want him taking shots away from the basket.

I appreciate that there's a chance with Walker that he could be high-reward. But there's nothing in his history so far that suggests that. Screw a S&T for more than the MLE, especially if it's for more than three years. I'm not going to pay a premium when the risk is so high.

If we can't get anyone else and he's willing to sign for the MLE, I'd consider it, but as of now, Walker is last on my priority list of acquirable free agents. I'll take SAR, Swift, Marshall, Simmons, or Cuttino with the MLE before Walker.

 

I don't mind pulling a deal for Walker, and I certainly wouldn't mind signing Cuttino back, but not BOTH. They are both more offense oriented, and we really don't need 4 guys that "need the ball in their hands".

If I had to pick between the two, I'd say Mobley. I still believe he'd be a great fit for our current team if we could find a PF to be primarily a rebounder/defender. It'd be nice if we could work a deal for Dalembert, but the chances of that are slim to none.

 

I guess now is the time to justify why I don't want Walker here. All the head problems, lousy shooting, cancer, selfishness I won't even mention. Y'all already got it sufficiently covered. But here is the thing, why would we SnT him? I suspect it is because he'll ask for more than the MLE.

Think about this, with Head, Sura, James (if we don't trade him) and Moochie, I doubt we'll spend the MLE on a PG, unless you can unload 2 to 3 of the above. The other obvious weakness that we have is at the 4. If we bring Walker I doubt we'll bring another 4, that would be really redundant. I'd rather choke than signing Walker for more than the MLE when we could just sign somebody else and avoid all of his problems.

One thing I see get thrown around a lot lately is Bobby Simmons. Not sure if there is anything legit to that but, I REALLY REALLY doubt we could sign him for the MLE. So here is the way I look at it:

1. We don't need the MLE for a 1.
2. We can sign a 4 with the MLE (and the best part) WITHOUT Walker
3. We ain't gettin' Simmons.

I say screw Walker and just do point 2 above.

 

I vote NO on the Walker idea, just not a fit. I like the Finley idea though.

 

Like many others have said, Walker dosent seem to be the best fit for this team, but if and thats a big if, he can buy into JVG's philosophy, your looking at a very scary team next year. He would be a legit 3rd option on this team. Double team Yao if you want to, Walker would burn you everytime. Of course thats if he becomes a rocket.

 

it was said earlier by another poster and bears repeating...

if the rockets had Walker last season, they would have beaten Dallas -

Walker is a head case, but getting him would be similar to adding Barkley in the 90's - he is the rebounder that the team needs and he can score. IF (and I say IF) he can play as a third wheel - then its a no brainer deal for the Rockets... sorry kids I don't like him either, but the guy can ball - he is a deadly third option.

The problems he had in Dallas were based on the fact that he was playing out of position with Dirk and Finley - he is a power forward first

... my only question would be - if you get WAlker, why do you have Howard. Only one of them can give you 35 minutes a night ...

 

Mobley for the MLE...not sure. He is a good shooter and he plays hard, but he has the basketball IQ of a carrot. The guy has no smarts whatsoever and drove JVG crazy...

 

Are saying we were better off with Bowen and Padgett than we would be with Walker?

 

Has JVG ever used an offensive play where Yao is out on the perimeter? Maybe Toine isn't such a bad idea?

 

I can't wait to see Walker shooting 15 times a game, and all of you guys yelling "give the damn ball to Yao". It will be fun.