Oh, please no. It's already an overblown "issue". I say just let it die and move on with our lives. But then what else would all the talking heads babble about all day long?
yeah, but you have to agree that it gives it a sort of closure to the issue if they do debate it out.
Disprove this. I hate statements like this. Instead of making someone prove their point, why dont you disprove what they said. How can you not say that the NFL wants blacks to suceed whether it is as a quarterback or as a coach or owner? Look at all of the hype behind the coaching changes? All of that bull**** was due to the NFL wanting more "minorities" (read blacks) to suceed. There isnt a big outcry for more hispanic and asain coaches.
You can't make an accusation without providing facts to back up the accusation. I completely agree that the NFL wants black coaches to succeed. I think there is ample evidence to prove that. However, the person should still have to back up the accusation that the NFL wants black QBs to succeed more than white QBs, which is what the accusation implied.
And the reason there isn't more outcry for Asian or Hispanic coaches is because the league isn't comprised of a majority of Asians or Hispanics.
Rush didn't say the NFL wants McNabb to succeed. He said the media does and, therefore, overhypes his abilities and success. Something they've never done with a white player, apparently. I mean, that's the argument. Black players get overhyped because the media wants them to succeed. That implies either that no white players get overhyped, or that the media has a special reason for overhyping black players. It's a bad argument because it's picking one player who has arguably been hyped beyond his abilities (that can be argued) and assigning a reason for that hype that's based on some element of that player. But if the media constantly overhypes players of other races, why would they need a special reason to overhype Donovan McNabb? And why, here in Dallas, has the media underhyped the black guy and overhyped the white guy in the recent QB controversy? I mean, if the monolithic media overhypes black QBs because they want them to succeed, why aren't they consistent in this desire?
I know this is silly but I got to wondering about this: I see commercials on ESPN every day for NFL Countdown and one of them has Rush talking to Berman or Tom Jackson or one of the other guys. I wonder if that commercial gets pulled now since Rush is gone. I wonder if we will see any more of those commercials because I am betting that all of them were done before the season started. It would be sorta funny, in a sick way, to see those commercials to air with Limbaugh in them despite the fact that he is no longer on the show.
ESPN will defiantly pull them because Rush gets a residual every time it's shown. residual = actor talk for getting paid.=
So . . . The Dixie Chicks had freedom of Speech too You make unpopular comments the Axe Flies Rocket River Rush just doesn't think it should swing both ways It is ok for him and his ditto heads to bash the dixie chicks but he wants to hide behind the 1st Amendment when he is bashed Same story . . different day
I dont think that is what he was implying. I think he was just stating that they (the NFL/media/whatever) wanted McNabb to succeed because it would make a good story. Good story = more ratings = more money. I dont think that these statements were racist just an observation. It isnt racist to want someone to succeed and to hype them up even though they probably arent as good as the hype claims them to be and it isnt racist to point out that this hype is being done.
I think that you make a good argument. There have been been plenty of white players that have been overhyped. As for Carter, he isnt overhyped because he doesnt have the potential that McNabb has. I think that what I was trying to convey is that the NFL wants blacks to succeed and it is pretty apparent with the coaching scandal. I threw that asian/hispanic comment in there because the NFL says that they want more minority coaches/owners when that isnt the case. They want black coaches/owners.
If Rush had made that point, there wouldn't be any controversy, but Rush was the one who brought race into the debate. He could've made the point that the media pumps people up for ratings purposes or because it makes a good story and used Donovan McNabb as an example and there wouldn't have been any controversy. Rush, however, said that the media wants black QBs to succeed and that the overhyping of McNabb is a kind of Affirmative Action. That specifically doesn't say that the reasons the media hypes McNabb is because it makes a good story or for ratings. That says they do it because he is black and they want to see a black QB succeed. If the player they were talking about had been Peyton Manning (a player that has arguably been overhyped), Rush could not have made the same point even though the media are just as guilty of overhyping the Peyton Mannings of the NFL as they have the Donovan McNabbs. So Rush apparently thinks when the media overhypes a white player, it's for one reason, and when they overhype a black player, it's because of that player's race. I'm not saying Rush is racist, though. I'm saying he's playing the race card in an effort to make an argument that isn't supported by the evidence.
My point about Carter, though, is that he was considered awful and Chad Hutchinson was praised even though their stats were virtually the same (and actually Carter had been a little better). Dallas has media. They make up part of what is considered "the media", and they have been just as guilty at talking up McNabb, but they were all over Quincy. If the desire is to see black QBs succeed, you'd think that would start at home, instead the Dallas media wanted to run Quincy out of town in favor of a white guy who wasn't quite as good as Quincy.
Scandal Right or Wrong, the NFL was pressured by the Black Coaches Association. You talk like the NFL is a seperate entity from the teams. The only person who has more authority in the NFL than the owners is the Commissioner and his office. Case in point, owners make decisions on Rules such as Instant Replay. The Owners are essentially the higher power of the NFL, and if they wanted more black coaches, it wouldn't have been such a so-called scandal. They would have hired them a long time ago. It is the coaches who have appealed, and the NFL, in fear of lawsuits put out its hiring policy.
Wasn't there a black player a few years ago that basically said that the only reason Jason Sehorn got any press or hype was because he was a white cornerback and that he really wasn't as good as the media leads us to believe? In essence (except for the actual quality of the players - McNabb > Sehorn), the comments were exactly the same.
