ESPN: Rockets will not match Grizzlies offer sheet

I am sorry for my last comments, i however am not sorry for what i think is really going on in the rox head office, pure and simple favoritism

 

Not every team uses the 3 spot as an extra guard. When Van Gundy was in New York, his 3 was Larry Johnson.
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Ouch!! 6 mil per yr, It would take a miracle 4 the ROXS 2 match that! Oh well, bye-bye Jpo, don't let the door hit u on the way out ! I think the ROXS R smart not 2 match it, I don't think he's worth the price, along wit the KT deal in Philly. Yikes, the Moochie & MoTT deal is comin back 2 bite Les' pasty A$$ !!! Anywayz, the ROXS r better off 2 get "cheaper" FA like the pole rifle or maybe Stephen Jacks if he's a FA!! More gellin' R in order 4 dis team by JVG! Also I hope they now can keep that BAD MAN in their roster! It's BOKI time now!

 

J-Hawk is Posey at 500 grr. Bye, J-Po.

Now let's get someone really good.

 

xlr817 hit it right on the head....he is rather pasty...maybe cause he is white!?!?!? just a thought

 

4 year / 24 mil? Hell no! Let Memphis take the bullet! That will effectively be 28 mil / 4 year for Rox. Let's get Pike for 12mil/4year and save the 16 mil, toghther with whatever we get after Rice's contract, do something real.

 

Most of you people are not thinking clearly. Between Posey and Eric P., which player will help Yao Ming more?

Eric is one of the best shooters in the league. He is a legitimate NBA starter, and opposing teams CANNOT leave him open. He genuinely creates space for Yao to take his man one on one.

Posey provides the Rocket's opponents with an opportunity to double down on Yao.

Who are the Rockets building this team around???? The answer is Yao, and that means we need spacing.

 

wow, 4 years at 24 million. That's more than the 3.5 million number people were throwing out earlier. Hell no, goodbye Jeff, it was nice knowing ya.

 

If you're going to call out Langhi, a 2nd round pick, then what about Tito Maddox? What about using a 1st round pick on Terrance Morris? What about Rodrick Rhodes? What about those sucky black players?

Taking Piatkowski over Posey has nothing to do with race but has to do with $$$.

By the way you can never get any respect from me with Moochie in your name. Talk about the Rockets giving too much money to a sucky black player.

 

Odom?

 

A lot of conflicting sources out there. According to some, all the Grizz can offer is the MLE. We don't know yet.

At any rate if the ESPN report's even 50% I think Les and CD are really taking a chance here - if we're banking on Piatkowski or a trade that's being worked on - I say it's very risky on our part.

If you think Posey's defense is overrated, fine, but there's no one on our team that's any better. There's absoulutely no one on the team that makes good decisions on the fast-break, and Posey's game is progressing at as quick a rate as as anyone here that's played more than 2 seasons.

The idea that we need a shooter on this team more than we need Posey's game I disagree with. When and if Yao becomes more dominant defensiviely, the Piatkowski's of the NBA are always available and a lot of their weaknesses are covered.

Unless this report is completely untrue or the Rockets have a deal very close, we are downgrading.

I said last year I wouldn't care if the Rockets didn't make the playoffs as long as Yao and Eddie got major minutes. They both did, and it was painfully obvious at times they weren't the best use of minutes in a basketball game.

I want to contend for the championship, and anything that gets us there quicker suits me, though it seems that 90% here think not being the 8th seed in the West was a huge deal.

Well, not only has the West gotten tougher, I'm convinced we may soon be weaker as a team. I expect Yao, Eddie and Boki to do well this year, but to me it looks like Les and CD are betting the farm on it.

We may be a hell of alot better team next seaon and not make the playoffs. If VanGundy's not sold on Posey for the cost of a MLE, I think he's looking at 2 years from now. I think Rudy did that last season too. while still determined to make the playoffs.

Either a deal's in the works or the Rox are playing for time. I think it's as simple as that. Risky.

 

i took the name Wink2Moochie as my recognizable namesake from my days on the ESPN message boards, just so i would be identified thats all...and yea the rox have made some mistakes on the black personel...but overall i belive it has to do with the hatred Les And CD have for forgniners that arnt from china, I E eduardo Najera. oh and benching Nachbar?

 

THis explains it!

 

im sure yall enjoy my posts they are humorus

 

Why is everyone so surprised? I think I've said it that we won't be able to resign Posey for an offer more than $2-3m a year. Well actually you only need to have a look at our salary situation, then you will figure this out.

Salaries committed in 2003/04:
Steve Francis $10m
Glen Rice $9.6m
Maurice Taylor $7.8m
Kevin Cato $7.3m
Cuttino Mobley $5.3m
Yao Ming $4.1m
Moochie Norris $3.6m
Eddie Griffin $2.3m
Bostjan Nachbar $1.3m
Matt Maloney $2.8m (Yes he's counted against our cap from what I understand!)

That's nearly $54m and it's only 9 active players. So to fill out the rest of roster (league minimum is 12 players) with veteran minimum players ($0.2-0.5m for each player), that's a payroll of nearly $56m. And that's PRE resigning James Posey.

The luxury tax threshold is rumoured to be at $57-58m. So resigning James Posey for anything more than $2m will DEFINITELY put us in the luxury tax land.

And let's take a look how paying the luxury tax affects the profit/loss of the franchise:
The Rockets used to have $4-7m porfit in 2000/01 and 2001/02 with a payroll of ~$49m. So let's use this as our base (USAToday have this).

IF resigning Posey, with a payroll of $59m + $1-2m luxury tax, the Rockets franchise will be estimated to have a LOSS of ~$5-8m in 2003/04 season alone.

IF not resigning Posey, with a payroll of $56 but earning the luxury tax share from teams over the luxury tax, e.g. Dallas, Portland etc (rumoured to be about ~$10m for each team under the luxury tax threshold), the Rockets franchise will suddenly look to have a PROFIT of ~$8-10m.

So what would do if you were the owner? James Posey is definitely worth $3-4m a year BUT is he worth $13-18 MILLION a year? Is he that big of a difference maker?

NBA fans always think that teams always put winning on the court over profit in the business. Well it's fiction. We just saw Atlanta trading a 20ppg scorer (Glenn Robinson) for a player (more specifically a contract) who will never play again IN ORDER TO get below the luxury tax threshold. We saw Bucks trade Ray Allen (their franchise player) for basically Desmond Mason (they never had any INTENTION of resigning Gary Payton) and trade Sam Cassell and Ervin Johnson (2 very productive players) for bascially Joe Smith (who is nothing) IN ORDER TO get below the luxury tax threshold. TOTALLY didn't make sense from a TALENT sense but made prefect sense from a FINANCIAL standpoint. Think it's really a basketball decision again? Think it's not really business?

You only have to look at our salary situation and you can see that the Cato, Taylor and Norris contracts absolutely kill this franchise. For those who think they are not overpaid, well... I don't know what to say. You only have to ask yourself, if those contracts are re-negotiated TODAY, would you still give over $7m to Cato and Taylor? Would you still give $3.6m for Norris? Even Cuttino Mobley I am not very sure is really worth his current contract. And you can forget about trading them as well because NO TEAMS would risk getting over the luxury tax land by taking on these players' long overpaid contracts.

Last thing, don't expect us to use our MLE. Don't expect Glen Rice to be traded (although we will definitely get something very good in return for his contract). We will most likely hold onto his contract and let it expire (REMEMBER we need salary relief AS MUCH AS any other teams, otherwise we are looking at HUGH MONEY LOSS every year for this franchise), so that we can pick up some much-needed role players with our MLE next summer. That's all.

 

Think of it this way - if we signed Posey, not only would we be paying him too much for too long, we would also lose any chance of swinging a good trade at the trading deadline.

Personally, I think the Rockets might be better suited to making a trade then, because JVG will know who he wants to keep and what he needs.

I sure hope we end up at least getting Pike for a reasonable salary though.

 

This post has "stupid" written all over it.

 

You're being way to nice.....Really.

 

why are you people being so hard on me...im just a simple man!

 

This is a great "MASTER" plan. First we get rid of Posey then we use the savings on Piakowski and J Berry. Then we can trade EG for Troy Murpy and Francis for Kirk Hinrich.