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[ESPN] Rockets' fall this season no reason to bash Morey's analytics focus

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Deuce, May 2, 2016.

  1. chievous minniefield

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    People who criticize the use of analytics are, in my experience, people who don't understand what analytics are or how they're actually used.

    Their argument is usually, essentially, "That's math! Nerds!"
     
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    I've said it before. Criticizing a GM for using analytics is like criticizing a writer for using a word processor instead of a typewriter. (Does anyone still use a typewriter?)

    If a GM's decision making is not good, it's not the tool he uses but how his mind works.
     
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    But according to some we need a.... type writer manufacturer or possibly a word processor programmer to assist the writer or whatever.
     
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    Straw man more... I'm a chemical engineer and have a math minor, and I do not believe in the use of analytics in the NBA as a primary driver of decision making. The idea that people who don't agree with you are just too stupid and ignorant is so arrogant it makes the whole movement look like a bunch of ass holes.
     
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    Hipsters use typewriters.

    We need a hipster GM. This is our problem.

    Preferably a hipster GM who does not use analytics.

    Phil Jackson??
     
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    People are trying to blame someone because they need someone to blame. JBB, Morey, Les, Harden.

    Really these guys didn't show up this season on D that's the bottom line.
     
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    Al Horford playing absolute terrible if you watched every Atalanta hawks game just like you do rockets you would know that al Horford is probably not better than Dwight and in June they will be the same age
     
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    that seems to be the gist of it. i've rarely seen anybody argue against analytics and then have any true idea of what they are arguing against. there's rarely an alternative. it's usually just something like "you need a basketball mind" or "you need someone who has played before who gets all of this", which is somewhat funny because the people arguing must obviously think they are one of the people who know better and are mostly likely people who never played college or pro ball either.

    i think the general hate for analytics comes down to 2 things.

    1) everyone thinks that they understand everything while watching sports. that's a typical conceit no matter what we're talking about. and they don't want anybody coming along telling them their perception might not be reality.

    2) people don't like math (which is not the same as them being stupid because plenty of smart people don't like math). this may be bigger than #1. i freely admit, i love math and numbers and there's no doubt it contributes to my fondness for analytics and and i also have no doubt the converse is true. not only is this person telling you that you are wrong, but now you have to try to do something you don't like to understand them. which people in any part of their lives don't like to do. that's probably why most opponents of analytics tend to show no understanding of what they are arguing against. because i assume they never really put much into learning what it was, outside of reading some generic article that probably didn't go very in-depth either.
     
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    What I don't understand is for such an analytics guy, why wouldn't he recruit some 3pt shooters instead of brickers?
     
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    Morey does not handle pressure, failure and negativity well....

    he blames others for negativity, defending his situation in every interview, sweating like a hog
     
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    That's not what he said, and he did say he was speaking from his experience.
     
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    maybe people should celebrate and go dancing in strip clubs according to you.

    because we achieved a 1-4 against the GSW and a 41-41 respectable record? :confused:
     
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    Is it possible to provide your concrete evidence regarding your statement that Spoelstra is no where near SVG and Riley as a coach? He coached the diva of diva's in LeBron and the other stars in Miami and he succeeded in making them toe the line. He won two championships as a coach so that should mean something because LeBron has never one a championship for any other coach. If there is no concrete evidence then it is a total disrespect for a championship coach to state that. It is like saying that Rudy T was not much of a coach since it was Dream and co. who were the reason for the two Rockets' championships. This "coaches are only good for 5 win differentials" from Morey is really getting out of hand.
     
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    Is DD goin crazy again?

    Anyways, Morey is a top tier GM and this season something odd happened...almost like Harden may have nailed one of Howards baby mamas or something...kinda like the Pacers collapse when George put the D in Hibberts woman.
     
  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Not crazy just trying to educate the ignorant masses, I am sort of like a religion.

    ;)

    DD
     
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    Hmmm...
    Religions can be irrational, devoid of facts, and way too loud...

    :p
     
  18. daywalker02

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    In fact he is a cult
     
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    But that's just my point - being a good writer is not about technology like typewriters - Mark Twain was a GREAT writer, and typewriting wasn't even invented when he wrote Burberry Fine.

    It's about FEEL.

    Mark Twain Had it - Morey...doesn't.

    DD
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Yeah maybe the Knicks should fire Phil Jackson too. Maybe if someone has a bad year that just means everyone should get fired and you start over from scratch. That's the way to run an organization. If you don't get the result one year, than clearly everything is wrong.
     

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