[ESPN Ric Bucher] Adelman will let Ricky Rubio be himself

every good decision, and every bad decision, unltimately falls on les. i can accept things in their totality. you only want to blame les for everything bad and not give him credit for anything good. that's the difference between being objective and being a hater.

what has les done for the rockets? he hired morey. all of morey's accomplishments are also les' accomplishments.

what has he done the last 2-3 years? well just a few months ago he brought in a hungry new coaching staff that is happy and eager and willing to implement morey's vision.

 

Time will tell.

 

Kyle Lowry is better than Ricky Rubio.

 

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best post in this thread :grin:

 

Believe that. Rubio will probably never be a top 5 PG. Lowry on the other hand.......

 

I used to think Rubio is good but he has regressed so much ever since then. Now he's just meh.

 

It's one thing to dislike Les, but seriously?

Spend ~$15 mil for the rights to draft Carl Landry, Sergio Llul, Jermaine Taylor, Joey Dorsey, Chase Budinger... I don't think I missed anyone.
Spend ~$7 mil(+whatever the Rockets luxury tax hit was) to take on Jefferies in order to trade Landry for Martin, Hill, and a 1st rounder.
Spend ~$30 to get Trevor Ariza which when became a bust netted us Lee.
Spend $5 mil in order to get a 1st round pick from Memphis and the right to see if Thabeet is worth anything.

I think there's a good chance that Les will be quite frugal going forward given the state of the team. But for the past years he's been spending.

 

In other words, the Rockets wanted to FIRE THEIR COACH. Jesus.

Can anyone imagine an owner/GM telling Phil Jackson who is assistants should be? Of course not. The only difference here is Michael Jordan and Shaq never played for Rick.

[rquoter]Even with the Houston Rockets, whose two-year extension offer Adelman turned down because they wanted to replace his staff...[/rquoter]

This is what sucks about this article, and it's not the fault of the article, but an indication that the Rockets' PR team has been successful. Just like they were successful in fooling people into thinking Rudy "stepped down". If you could get rings for PR, then Less would be one of the better owners in the NBA.

 

Yeah, but the non-sheeple can discern the truth...



DD

 

Once upon a time, there was a coaching change in Houston. The old regime had a defensive assistant, who I'll call Coach. T. He was by all accounts very, very good. But when the new regime came, the new HC decided that he only wants his own guys. So he replaced this defensive assistant with his own guy.

At the same time in Boston. There was this coach who was willing to listen to management's recommendations on assistant coaches. And as a result Boston hired an outside coach, Coach. T, to be their associate head coach and de facto defensive coordinator. Quite amazing, since Coach T was deemed unworthy of a job back in Houston.

What's weird is that all Rockets fans know this story, yet still believe that the best thing for the team is for the team is for Adelman to handpick his assistants.

 

I don't understand your point. Is it:

1. JVG is smarter than Adelman because he knew Thib's value better than Adelman did?

2. Rockets management was dumb for opting for Adelman instead of Thib?

3. Doc Rivers had the same resume as Adelman, so if it's appropriate to treat Doc that way, it's also appropriate to treat Adelman the same?

or
4. The Rockets management suggested Adelman to use Thib but Adelman refused?

If it's #4, you need to give some sources because I haven't heard of it. If it's #1 or #2, what is the relevance in this debate? If it's #3, you know that's not true.

 

Where's Chris Jent at?

 

#1: Not sure how you reach this conclusion, but I wasn't even thinking this...

#2: Was Thibs not willing to take a defensive coach job with us? The one he eventually got in Boston? I don't remember Thibs gave the Rockets management the "give me the HC job or I'm gone" ultimatum. If I'm wrong, then I apologize for my mistake.

#3: Personally, I think Doc Rivers is closer to Adelman than Adelman is to Phil Jackson.

#4: WTF? Morey just became the GM 4 years ago. Regardless of whether he had the ability to choose top assistants back then has nothing to do with his capability of it today.

My only point is that in my memory, Adelman simply dismissed Thibs to get his guy Elston Turner here. Regardless of whether Thibs would've stayed, I don't believe Adelman made a play for the guy. And Thibs was and still is obviously the much superior defensive coach.

 

On the PJ-Adelman debate:

In my mind Adelman is much closer to PJ than it would be obvious looking at his number of rings. As Adelman himself pointed out, this league is about talent. He had a top 3 talent only once in his career and made it to the finals twice with that talent and was only defeated by the top1 talent (and not Phil Jackson, mind you). He would have one ring with a perennial top5 talent (Webber was arguably top5 during his peak, but I'd say Kobe, Shaq, Garnett and Duncan were clearly better players, and we have AI, Kidd, T-Mac who are about the sameish in actual usefulness) and a strong team if not for Stern.

About Thibs: we don't know the details so everything here is just speculation. BUT: even if Thibs desperately wanted to be AC under Adelman, and only Adelman said no thanks (I highly doubt this scenario anyway), Adelman might have had reasons to do so. Like chemistry within the staff, differences in approach to the whole flow of play (tempo, defensive schemes and especially defense-to-offense transition -- guess these are just the problems of Chicago, I wonder why).

 

I am not upset the organization decided to go another direction, I am just pointing out that they did it in a underhanded, pussified way.

DD

 

I was just asking what your point was. I could only come up with 4 possible answers.

From your reply, it seems that #3 was the closest.

I simply disagree. But I don't want to argue.

Like kovacs424 points out, picking an assistant is more than just how good the guy is.

 

Some Rocket fans know that Kevin Garnett played for the Celtics, and Mutombo and Yao played for the Rockets while TT was there. I'm one of them.

Your inclination to swing from Rocket management's nuts seems to know no bounds.

 

What is your evidence that TT compliments RA more than ET does? Furthermore, what evidence do you have that TT was a better defensive coach for the Rockets? How did Turner lead the Rockets to 2nd in the league defensively, better than any ranking ever obtained by TT?

 

You can't reason with them.

Oh noez! Adelman bad coach! No play rookies! No play T-Will or Thabeet!