[ESPN Ric Bucher] Adelman will let Ricky Rubio be himself

This is you

 

nah that's you and other haters, hating on the rockets/les/morey and constantly making up crap and spinning everything you can just because you are bitter about adelman deciding to leave.

"uncle less" ... "sheeple" ... "coward" ... "cheap" ... "snake" ... i wasn't the one who said any of those things.

i'm a troll because i don't hate les/morey .... mmmkay

 

that's cute.

so did les sign off on the drexler trade or not?

 

That's the whole point. Nobody in the right mind would believe that an established coach like Adelman would agree to that. So why even ask? Doesn't it look like a charade?

It's like saying, "Hey, I offer you a job, and part of the job is licking my shoes clean everyday. Oh, you don't want it? Too bad, it's your choice. Don't say I didn't offer you the job."

 

You are right. The team likely know beforehand that Adelman wouldn't accept such a deal. But really, what's the harm in asking? It's not like asking would hurt the team.

Since I recently built my own computer, here's my analogy.

To me Adelman and the new coaching group is like buying a brand name computer set vs a custom build computer. The brand name has lots of advantages. It comes ready-made. It gives you everything you need. You know what you're getting. But the problem is that you don't get to choose the details. There may be parts you don't need. The specifications may not be enough in some aspects. The brand gives you what they want, not what you want. And you can't exactly upgrade as you like.

OTOH, a custom-build computer let you choose which parts you want. You can choose the perfect part for whatever role. You can make something that's perfect for you. The disadvantage is that you don't know how these different parts work together. You don't know if you made the correct choices or if you're wrong. The result is not certain, because it has not been tested over time like the brand name. Things may fit, or may not. There are bound to be issues.

What the Rockets did 4 years ago was that they needed to compete immediately. So they bought the brand name, knowing what they'll get. And it worked. Adelman was as good a coach for those teams as it gets. But now the Rockets don't need to compete. So they want to make something from scratch. They feel Adelman is still a good core for that build-from-scratch coaching staff. So they want to move Adelman's role as the CPU of a brand name computer to a CPU of a custom-built computer. And Adelman says no, as expected. So the Rockets went to find a different CPU... and got Kevin McHale, the unknown brand that no one knows about. But is willing to be part of Morey's custom-build coaching staff.

Obviously the entire post is pointless. Just wasting time for the now likely prolonged lockout.

 

Thanks for the link. But I don't understand how that interferes with my post though. If Adelman wanted to designate his heir-apparent, and the Rockets say no, how is that the same as the Rockets pushing Adelman out?

Seems to me what it means is that Adelman wants some security for his lead assistant when he hangs up, and the Rockets don't care for it. It still doesn't mean the Rockets don't want Adelman. Just that they don't care for Turner.

 

That is the point, if the team knew they wanted to go a different direction why bother with the charade?

They just don't want to admit that they have a longer term goal of development over competing now.

Ridiculous just man up and tell everyone it is not that hard to discern.

No matter what previously banned posters that are back have to say......right DennisJent?



DD

 

Doc Rivers agreed to it and won a title. KC Jones agreed to it and won titles.

 

why not? has it never happened before in the history of the league or pro sports?

these guys get paid bank and they have job opportunities that very few others have. they aren't struggling to feed their families. loyalty isn't very important if it is going to cost you a job that you suposedly like.

and like i said, if it was indeed elston turner, then it was an especially dumb decision because he took another job and won't be going to minnesota anyway.

assistants leave their jobs for greener pastures all the time. why would adelman be so obtuse about cutting one loose?

because if he says yes then you're in a good spot.

no. it looks like a team that made an offer and a coach who refused the offer. occams razor says don't complicate things any more than they need to be. drama queens can speculate and point fingers all they want. but don't expect other people to listen or agree with your speculations.

the bottom line to me is adelman is gone and now we have a new team of coaches who are hungry to win.

actually its a whole lot more like ... offering a coach $4 million per year to coach your team (which he just finished doing) with the caveat of dropping one of his assistants and training the next coach.

you people seem to keep forgeting that these are millionaires working on contracts. any analogy that you try to bring up that doesn't involve - 1) millions of dollars, and 2) contracts - doesnt make any sense.

 

more like, leasing an old dell computer, but isn't compatible with new software so it needs an upgrade. dell doesn't want to let you upgrade so you build your own computer with newer parts. runs the software you need and is more cost effective anyway.

 

yea but they aren't "established" like adelman and his "stature" ...

and somehow, adelman's decision making process is the rockets responsibility instead of adelman's.

what a charade!

 

They are both Morey guys. Morey knows Finch isn't ready to be head coach right now and needs seasoning as an assistant. And, he sees McHale's strength to be as a manager of people, not a strategy-guy. This will not be the traditional arrangement of a head coach instituting his system. It's corporate now. This is McHale being the Senior VP of coaching and assistant coaches as Directors and Managers in the Coaching department.

I'd say it looks more like a long-shot than a charade. DaDakota was asserting that they made up this assistant coach business to force Adelman to quit. I don't believe that at all. If they really didn't want Adelman back at all, I think they would not have offered a contract, like they did with Van Gundy. They just knew, having done business with Adelman the last few years, that he wasn't going to like the new arrangement. And, I think the offer was more than a courtesy or a formality -- Morey and Adelman discussed it at great length before Adelman declined. So, I think there was some sincere effort to make the relationship work.

DaDakota, I do agree with you about the firing of Rudy T -- Les took the coward's way out because he feared the PR blow-back from firing Mr. Rocket. But, there wasn't anything underhanded about canning JVG. JVG was saying he didn't want to talk about an extension and just wait until summer. Les decided not to renew his contract in the interim and go get a great coach who was on the market. That's not sneaky.

 

Juan,

In all 3 cases Les did not really want the coach back, and the team made an offer they knew was not palatable, so they could go to the public and say they tried.

The offers were pure PR, and not really an honest effort.

I am fine with McHale, because the team is rebuilding, but I do not like Les, he is a problem when he is having meetings with JVG and blaming him for a lack of attendence......

If the organization were more truthful, and basically just said..."We are going to start playing some younger guys, and we wanted to go a different direction" I think the more astute fans would have been ok with that.

DD

 

Is there a way fans can protest their way for a new owner? I really can't stand Lez. I only worry that the team could be moved in the event of a change in ownership.

So far under his reign, we've seen 2 nightmare changes in uniforms. He lucked out with getting Yao or else I'm guessing we would've been much worse.

 

It was a power play and Rick lost, simple as that. My own theory as to why he was pushed out is because
he yapped to the media. I get the distinct impression that Les doesn't like that - at all.

 

Agreed it was a pissing match etc......but I think it had more to do with the direction that Les and Morey wanted to take the franchise.

Rick did not like trading Shane and AB, but the organization (read Morey) wanted to stockpile young assets in the hopes that one of them develops.

Then Rick would not even play the guys he brought over......

I think the org knows that if we finish 8thish every year we are not going to get better, so Morey goes out and gets players that other organizations have given up on ...too early in the hopes that he finds a gem.

Hill
Flynn
Thabeet
Williams

And now it is time for the team to play those guys some to see what they have, and Rick was probably not interested in doing that so much...he was interested in winning every game, and the org is interested in developing players to go further in another upcomming year.

DD

 

Chris Jent MVP FTW. Lol at ascaptjack posting the same old troll gifs cause he ran out of rebuttals.

 

Name me one thing Les has done to improve our roster the past 2-3 seasons?

It seems like we are going nowhere with Les running things.

Morey is not who I have a problem with, in fact I think he is a top 5 GM in the league. Very smart man who knows alot of about the game of basketball. Same can't be said for Les.

I think if it were up to Morey, Adelman would still be here.

1 playoff victory last 13 seasons is totally unacceptable for a "winning" franchise like the Rockets.

Rick's track record past 10 seasons far outweigh Uncle Less'.

Men lie, women lie, but NUMBERS don't.

 

We'll see how it works out. VP of coaching? Maybe it is a new way of assembling a coaching staff. I do see the scenario of McHale moving up to a kind of VP position when Finch is ready to take over the head coaching job.

Your interpretation of the Adelman situation is one way to see it. I am just contending that my perception (and those who agree with me) isn't invalid either. I guess the way Alexander treated Rudy T makes it hard for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the truth is something in between.