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[ESPN Ric Bucher] Adelman will let Ricky Rubio be himself

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by infinitidoug, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. Chris Jent MVP

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    enough drama already

    what exactly is adelman's "stature" worth anyway? players are judged by their most recent performance, not just past accomplishments. players have peaks and declines. coaches have peaks and declines as well. everything that adelman had done in the past is not really relevant to what the rockets want in the future.

    pretty much. but the rockets atleast wanted some flexibility for the future by having "their guy" on his staff.

    and lets not go feeling to sorry for millionaires ok? it's not like the rockets were trying to rip him off or not pay him or something. he fulfilled his previous contract, and he was paid handsomely for it. they gave him another opportunity to make a few million more dollars by training their next coach. he decided to walk. the end.

    why do people have to be so dramatic about things? (not necesarily you but people in general). reporters want to write interesting stories so they spin the news into "wrongs" and "rights" when in reality its just a boring business agreement between boring old men.

    both sides are being vague enough that "difference of philosophy" is about the only reasonable statement that can be made from it. don't think for a minute that adelman isn't spinning his side of the story any less than the rockets.

    losing winnable games is a good enough reason for me.

    in the end, the only thing that matters is: do you agree with the result (adelman being gone and mchale being the new coach)? some say yes, some say no. i think adelman has peaked and is in decline. mchale can pretty much only get better. so i think it was a good decision.*

    *if the rockets can make the transition without losing too much, then they should be able to capitalize on mchales growth as a coach. if he sucks and doesnt get better, then the rockets swap him out with another up-and-coming coach and pick up some draft picks along the way. it's the same moneyball approach but applied to coaches instead of players.
     
  2. ascaptjack

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    McFail sucks as a coach. I'd gladly have Adelman in his decline than McFail in his peak.
     
  3. Chris Jent MVP

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    thank you for this well-reasoned, non-biased, totally-not-trolling post. it was a cool story, bro.

    :cool:
     
  4. DaDakota

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    I have no problem with the organization wanting to go in a new direction. That is completely within their pervue.

    What bothers me is that they played this charade knowing that it would come to this, they knew all along that what they were going to ask was unacceptable.

    But they wanted the Sheeple to believe that they gave it the old college try....

    DD
     
  5. Chris Jent MVP

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    how are they to know 100% if adelman would take the offer? maybe they were hoping to be pleasantly surprised. better to give him a chance to review the offer and refuse it instead of just saying GTFO.

    and even so, if the offer was "unacceptable" then who's problem is that really? why is adelmans decision the rockets responsibility? why are the rockets obligated to give an offer in adelmans favor instead of their own?

    they asked a millionaire if he would like to have a few more million dollars. he said no thanks. the only charade is in your mind.

    of course, the "sheeple" are the ones who fail to be as enlightened as you, huh? :rolleyes:
     
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    I agree that Finch is Morey's guy. But that still doesn't mean Morey wanted to get rid of Adelman. And why is McHale here? Is he an interim too, grooming Finch for the future? Maybe now McHale is Morey's man and he has dumped the Finch experiment.
     
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    It really doesn't matter if you think Adelman did a good job for the Rockets or not. (I think most objective people would say yes.) The fact is, even those who don't like Adelman would have to admit that he has a successful coaching career for almost 2 decades. You don't tell a guy like that who he should use as assistants.
     
  8. Chris Jent MVP

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    they didn't tell him, they asked him. he said no. the end.

    it's not like they fired his assistant and brought in a replacement without his permission in the middle of his season/contract. that's really the only scenario in which your argument makes any sense. but that's not reality.

    here's reality - he completed his contract, and the rockets pad him for his services. the rockets then offered him a new contract with some new stipulations. he reviewed the new offer and refused it.

    that's as simple as it gets. everything else is speculation and spin and theatrics.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    No, just the people that fail to see what is going on with Les and the Rockets and has been for years.

    Maybe you are just too young to know the history...

    Rudy T
    JVG
    Rick Adelman

    All run out of the job by Les, but in an underhanded "We tried to keep him" way...and all utter bull****.

    DD
     
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    Uncle Less has done this three times already with three coaches (Rudy, JVG, Adelman). That ain't no coincidence, bro. He took the coward way out and made it seem like they walked out on him. I'll take Adelman over Les every day of the week and twice on Sundays, bro. :rolleyes:
     
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    and which version of "history" should i know? the one spun by you and your preferred sports writers and forum posters? :rolleyes:
     
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    Believe what you want, I know the truth of what happened, if you want to tow the company line, by all means grab the rope...

    DD
     
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    Yes, Uncle Less, whatever you say, Uncle Less.

    History sides with the previous coaches buddy.

    Rudy couldn't perform his coaching duties because of cancer, but accepts a job soon after with the Lakers?

    JVG was still coaching the team while Uncle Less went out and already found his replacement in Adelman.

    And now with Adelman?

    It's like a revolving door of coaches coming in and out. Not only is Less a cheap owner, he's a snake too.
     
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    sure, he could have fired them mid-season and told them to GTFO instead of letting their contracts expire and continuing to pay them. what a coward! :rolleyes:

    and then, after the contracts expired, he had the cowardice to ask for changes instead of going with the unsatisfactory status quo. the nerve of some people! :eek:

    from les' point of view, they DID walk out on him. les has his own interests to worry about, and the coaches have theirs. that's business. of course people tend to spin stories in their own favor.

    but so what? you seem to think that i'm supposed to choose somebody's side or care about one of them. there is no reason for me to choose. adelman is gone, mchale is the new coach, and i'm ok with that.

    good for you, bro.

    how many teams has adelman owned again? :rolleyes:
     
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    None, but Adelman's track record as a coach far exceeds Les' as an owner.

    BTW, what has Uncle Less done for the Rockets?
     
  16. Chris Jent MVP

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    and how long did that last?

    you forgot about the part where les offered jvg an extension and jvg didn't take it when he had the chance.

    no wonder we can't agree on "history" ... yours has big chunks missing.

    the rockets have repeatedly trended toward the upper end of player payroll in the league and they pay their coaches pretty well too. try again, troll.
     
  17. Chris Jent MVP

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    that's an apples and oranges comparison if there ever was one. but since you asked....

    les = 2 championships
    rick = 0 championships


    he got rid of some crappy coaches, for starters.
     
  18. ascaptjack

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    Less never "won" that 1st championship. Look up the history, kid. That team was built by Patterson, buddy. 2nd championship had nothing to do with Les.

    LOL, come at me bro!

    Crappy coaches hmmm? Consistently having a winning record without a superstar or a serviceable center is doing a crappy job? LOL.
     
  19. Chris Jent MVP

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    the #1 quote of all delusional delusionists who believe their own delusions.

    please excuse me while i die laughing :rolleyes:

    if you are going to try and act smarter than other people, you should atleast get your idioms straight. it's toe the line.

    http://grammartips.homestead.com/toetheline.html
     
  20. Chris Jent MVP

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    no kidding? :eek:

    you don't have to tell me who built that team, i'm not the one with the selective memory. you, however, were the one who decided to compare adelman to alexander so thats the only meaningful comparison that i could make between the two. don't blame me because your senseless comparison backfired on you.

    les didn't sign off on the drexler trade? :confused:

    nah, actually they were decent coaches. but you asked a troll question therefore i gave you a troll answer. if you want better answers, then you need to ask better questions and have a more coherent argument.
     

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