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[ESPN Ric Bucher] Adelman will let Ricky Rubio be himself

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by infinitidoug, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. A_3PO

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    Doubtful because the alternatives are Telfair and Ridnour. Neither of them is talented and both have flat-lined. Neither guy is close to being serviceable as a starter.

    I don't think much of Rubio at all, but he'll get playing time early on. If he flames and burns, Adelman will act accordingly. Weakness at PG is why Minny will struggle to win games next season (if it happens). Adelman seems to be excited now but how will he feel in the dogs days of Jan/Feb/Mar with this team?
     
  2. kovacs242

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    What did you think of Mr. "White Chocolate" coming into the league?
     
  3. meh

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    Where did you hear that? Because I've never seen such reports. The article above says nothing about grooming a future coach. Just that they want mess with Adelman's staff.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    2 year deal........

    DD
     
  5. Angkor Wat

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    I respect Rick for what he did. He didn't sell out his assistants. He shows integrity. And of course he gets to pick his assistants for his new job. Why would he agree to coach there if he could not?
     
  6. redhotrox

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  7. DaDakota

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    Come on people don't be obtuse, Les wanted Rick gone, put on a show, forced Morey to tote his lunchbox, and then got there way.

    Rick did 100% the right thing.....the org did what they wanted to as well, but the Rockets (as has been their history under Les) did a slimy snaky way.....

    Les is not a stand up guy to work for, or with, the dude is a worm.

    DD
     
  8. Raven

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    I think it's safe to say that Rick was thoroughly grilled on how he planned to use Little Ricky.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    And he has had major success bringing young PGs along and with foreign players as well.

    Going to be a great fit for Minny.

    DD
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    Why is it so hard to believe that it is exactly how they say it is? Rick said it; Morey at least implied it. They wanted to change the way they do player development, which meant getting rid of some assistants. They'd like to have Adelman around but knew he wasn't going to go for the change they were set on making. They asked, he said no, as expected.

    This isn't Rudy T we're talking about. They didn't need to invent some pretext to fire JVG. Why would they need one for Adelman?

    I really find it incredible that people still don't know why Adelman was fired, and don't believe it when they hear it. Is this an acute case of cognitive dissonance, where people were so sure about the "real" reason Adelman was going to get fired that when it finally happened, their brains couldn't accept the actual reason, so they repeatedly forgot it?
     
  11. Chris Jent MVP

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    sure he gets to choose his assistants, but it's no guarantee that they will take the job. they might be looking for their own gigs or holding out for other opportunities.
     
  12. coachbadlee

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    Adelman should have let Morey be himself.
     
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  13. merrrlo

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    I guess all the criticism on his time as GM made McHale lose his self respect then :p
     
  14. redhotrox

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    Maybe because Les tried to fire Adelman at the beginning of last season?

    Maybe because when Les was asked in the middle of last season if he'd bring Adelman back, he actually said something like, “Well, you have to look at the Rockets record…” Implying that Adelman wasn't doing a good enough job lol.

    I don't know why...but Les was sure enough already doing it before the season was even over when he made up some b.s. excuse about Adelman's hardships with commuting from Portland...which Rick the Ruler immediately shot down. Rockets coach provides clarity about owner's comments


    So no, it’s not quite as black and white as you make it seem, and I don’t for a second think that the owner sincerely wanted Adelman back like you are suggesting.
     
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  15. Rockets Jones

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    Quoted for truth

    Hope Rick gets the most of Ricky :) Like a father-son type relationship :p
     
  16. cheke64

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    Stfu and put a video up. This is how you should talk in your vids, without filters.
     
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    Everything I've read indicates that management wanted Chris Finch on the bench with Adelman. He wasn't letting go of Elston Turner, Jake Sikma,T.R Dunn or his own son RJ Adelman so they parted ways..


    Adelman, Rockets disagreed over coaching successor
    Adelman declined to mentor successor
    Rockets tried to make their pick for next coach a new assistant
    JONATHAN FEIGEN
    , Copyright 2011 Houston Chronicle
    Published 05:30 a.m., Monday, May 2, 2011


    Rick Adelman had long touted lead assistant Elston Turner as his coaching successor, however, the Rockets were not willing to designate Turner for that position. Photo: Chronicle, James Nielsen / HC
    Rick Adelman had long touted lead assistant Elston Turner as his...


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    The Rockets had decided they would choose Rick Adelman's successor even before the team and the coach had agreed to part ways.

    Adelman could have remained the Rockets' head coach, but was told that the Rockets had decided to hire his successor and put him on Adelman’s coaching staff if he remained, according to two individuals with knowledge of the talks.

    Though Adelman and Rockets general manager Daryl Morey came together on several issues, Morey wanted Adelman to mentor a successor that Morey and Rockets owner Leslie Alexander would have chosen and put on Adelman’s staff. Adelman was unwilling to make the changes necessary to his staff, arguing in favor of assistants.

    Adelman, 64, has long touted lead assistant Elston Turner as ready to lead a team, but the Rockets were not willing to designate Turner as Adelman’s successor, leading to Turner’s decision to turn down an offer to interview for the head coaching position.

    There were discussions about adding Rio Grande Valley Vipers coach Chris Finch to the Rockets staff, according to both persons familiar with the talks, but it is unclear if Finch would have been designated as the head coach in waiting.

    Finch led the Vipers to the 2009-10 NBA Development League championship and to this season’s D-League Finals.

    Morey has been unwilling to discuss the disagreements that led to Adelman’s departure.

    “We agreed to keep those conversations to ourselves,” Morey said last month. “We feel like we need change. I think the differences in terms of the mutual fit revolve around that.”

    Though there have been instances in which assistant coaches have been designated to succeed veteran coaches, in those cases the assistant was part of a staff, rather than placed on the staff by the front office.

    It is even more unusual given Adelman’s track record. He moved to eighth in career coaching wins and had the best winning percentage as Rockets coach in franchise history.

    His assistants – Turner, Jack Sikma, T.R. Dunn and R.J. Adelman – had been on Adelman’s staff in all four seasons in Houston. Turner was a Sacramento assistant under Adelman for six seasons, Dunn for four seasons.

    Sikma, who interviewed for the Rockets head coaching position last week, was an assistant coach in Seattle for four seasons. R.J. Adelman had been an advance scout for the Kings and SuperSonics before joining his father in Houston.

    The insistence on putting a successor on Adelman’s staff would not be a part of the current coaching search because the Rockets are not expected to choose a coach late in his career. They could, however, seek to place Finch or another coach with a player development background on a new coach’s staff.

    Finch is not expected to be a candidate for the head coaching position with the Rockets apparently seeking a coach with experience as an NBA head or assistant coach.

    The Rockets interviewed Mike Woodson, Mario Elie, Kelvin Sampson and Sikma last week and are expected to meet with Sam Cassell and Kevin McHale this week. They have also shown interest in Dallas’ Dwane Casey, New Orleans’ Michael Malone, Boston’s Lawrence Frank, Los Angeles’ Brian Shaw and San Antonio’s Mike Budenholzer, though Budenholzer said he was not looking to leave San Antonio.

    or his son RJ Adelman.
     
  18. kovacs242

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    Rick Adelman explicitly hinted (if that is possible) that Morey and co wanted to mess with his staff. His problem wasn't Finch but that they wanted to replace one of his assistants.

    Here is the link:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/09/28/rick.adelman/

    And here is the quote:

    That's the story, period.
     
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  19. Easy

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    It was said that Alexander had to be talked out of firing Adelman in mid-season. Does that make a link?

    There is a glaring excuse for JVG's firing. He couldn't bring them past the first round with two of the best offensive players in the game. Should JVG be blamed? Not totally. But that's a legitimate reason for firing a coach. There was no legitimate reasons for letting Adelman go other than some vague stuff like differences of philosophy. And it's not like Adelman didn't want to come back. He explicitly said that he wanted to coach the team again. And Morey actually said that he was surprised that Adelman wanted to come back.

    The assistant issue is a fact. As I said, it my suspicion that the assistant thing was just a way to get him to walk away voluntarily. It's my suspicion/opinion, not a fact. But I don't think it's so incredible as you think. I feel that it was a pretty unreasonable demand for a coach of Adelman's stature. Not liking a head coach's staff is pretty much the same as not liking the head coach. How can you say, "I want the head coach but I don't want his staff"?
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    I don't think it was something as simple as not liking the assistants. Morey wants to change the player development paradigm. That's a good deal more ambitious than getting better assistants.

    As for the almost-firing at the begining/middle/whenever of the season, I think that reflects the decision-making timeline on this development management scheme. They decided to do this thing at the beginning of the season and knew that Adelman wouldn't be on-board with it. So, they considered moving forward with an interim coach for the season since Adelman was a lame-duck. But, ultimately they decided it would serve their long-term interests to get as many wins as possible and take a crack at a playoff berth, so they let Adelman ride to the end of the contract. I don't think it was that they wanted to be rid of Adelman; they just weren't willing to change their plans to accomodate Adelman.

    That's the other thing that gets me. Many people want to say this is an Alexander move. To me, it looks like it has Morey's prints all over it. Integrating the Vipers and player development more closely is a Morey thing. Finch is a Morey guy. Trying to win even when you can't contend and it'll only hurt your draft position is a Morey move. Alexander is obviously on board, but I think this whole Adelman and McHale thing is Morey's baby.
     

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