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[ESPN] Redd Agrees to re-sign with Bucks for 6 years

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by thelasik, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. emjohn

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    I'm saying it right now: The Bucks franchise will be sold or moved before Redd's contract is up. Kohl should get a buyer asap, before they have a chance to realize what just happened.

    Evan
     
  2. 101 6 7

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    Lebron & "Z"
     
  3. 101 6 7

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    LJ WILL end up in LA, NY or Chicago - it is his destiny.
     
  4. Desert Scar

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    Actually I don't think this impacts our prospects that much. Simmons to us was a long shot to start, once Allen stayed with Seattle instead of the Clips it was an extreme long shot.

    After this deal, now Simmons is all but assured to staying with the Clips or going to Cleveland. Cleveland hasn't really been in the Swift/Walker sweepstakes at all, I don't think this changes. I think their next plan is to get Z and another SG--via Simmons, Mobely or someone else, I don't see them trying to squeeze in Swift or Walker between Z and Gooden.

    Atl or NO or Char could always go after Swift regardless of these other moves. But I think for 10 mil they would want star cornerstones, not role players like Swift.

    We are still doing OK in free agency until the PFs starting agreeing elsewhere, that is when I'll get nervous.
     
  5. Rocketman15

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    Lebron & Z
    Iverson & dalembert

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  6. foodworld

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    Brain Scalabrine and Delonte West might be the first red-head center/point guard duo in NBA history. Give me that over Bogut any day of the week.
     
  7. Stack24

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    Okay first of all who's heart can be in Milwaukee of all places...second i think his heart was in the extra 20 million that Bucks could give and Caveliers couldn't...

    Give me a break.
     
  8. foodworld

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    How many teams have to get burned before people realize that, in most cases, free agency and cap space are overrated?
     
  9. steddinotayto

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    I commend Redd. He KNOWS that he's the best player the Bucks has/had. I haven't seen what Bogut can or cannot do, so he's still an unknown quantity in the NBA. The Bucks can't afford to lose Redd and it's not like they're capped out to begin with. Now if they hire Isiah as GM and start taking on big contracts left and right, THEN we can say they're screwed. Otherwise, they'll just have a very good shooting guard (who's only 26 right?) at a high salary playing for them for the next 6 years.
     
  10. leehoang

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    Should of went to Cleveland.
     
  11. ivanyy2000

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    Don't be so Unsure about it. I bet 99.5% ppl will do it in a heart beat. 20M more vs playing with Lebron, are you kidding me? Why is it even a question? All the glory goes to James and I take far less money. Who will do that? And Lebron has won nothing yet.
     
  12. ivanyy2000

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    One more thing, say bye bye to Cat. After the Allen and Redd signing, Cat won't settle anything less than 8M.
     
  13. juicystream

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    Redd is a smart guy. Winning nor playing with Lebron is worth losing 20 million dollars (although he might have got a big contract again because he would be Ray Allen's age when he came up for his next contract). I think you have to take that guaranteed extra money. For a couple million at those kinds of dollars it would make since to bolt for his hometown Cavs. I couldn't see me taking 20 million less to go to Houston even though I am a lifetime fan of the Rockets and would have an excellent chance at a title.
     
  14. tiger0330

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    I think you could have predicted Allen and Redd would sign with their current teams, the new CBA tilted the chances for teams resigning their FA superstars, the additional year and 10% raise almost guarantees that other teams not be be able to match the Sonics and Bucks offers. This does not bode well for the Roxx to sign Walker, Swift or Sar, they now become the jewels of this offseason and will wind up with the teams that have cap space ie Hornets, Bobcats, Cavs etc.

    Hate to say it but I think the offseason moves will be underwhelming and look like something like Padgett signs with another team, we sign Madsen, maybe AD or Damon Stoudemire.
     
  15. Hottoddie

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    But, you would still have $76 million. Can you spend $76 million? I don't think I could. At least not, wisely. I don't think it's about having enough money to take care of their families any more. In my opinion, it's all about being able to brag about who got the most.

    I guess there'll come a day when one of these over paid (& I do mean over paid) professional athletes will actually say, I'll forgo that extra $20 million so that I can be close to my family at home, & I'll trust that my next contract with that club will be close to fair market value.

    EDIT: Isn't that what Pettite did?
     
  16. mogrod

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    Why? The Hornets are horrible, the Bobcats have already said they are not going to spend money this offseason, and the Cavs have their own player (Big Z) to worry about and will probably only sign one good player after that (which will be a guard).

    The Rockets have just as good a chance as any to land one of their target PF free agents.
     
  17. tiger0330

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    We shall see but Swift took a one year deal last year for a little more than the MLE so why should he would he want to sign for less than he is making now, he is young and has plenty of time to think about making winning a higher priority than getting paid, same goes with Walker he will wind up back with Boston because Ainge has expressed interest in resigning him. Sar doesn't seem interested in the Rox.
     
  18. steddinotayto

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    i agree with you, but unfortunately for us and the rockets, the same can be said about the "great chance" to play alongside Tmac and Yao... :(
     
  19. tierre_brown

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    First off: I love Michael Redd. Is he a max player? Hell no. But, like thacabbage so eloquently stated, it's a vicious cycle; you can't fault the player for going after his.

    Second: For those of you crucifying Redd and saying he should have taken less money to go play for Cleveland: do you have any assurance that LeBron will stay in Cleveland for the duration of Redd's contract? Yeah he's got a good head on his shoulders, and he seems to say all the right things. But if you're Redd and take less money to sign with the Cavs, only to see LeBron bolt for NY/LA/CHI-town, how would you feel for leaving $20 million on the table? We'd be laughing at him and saying that was the stupidest thing anyone had every done.

    Bottom line: Redd did the right thing, MIL did the right thing. Maybe Redd isn't worth $96 mil, but to the Bucks, he is. That's all that matters.
     
  20. francis 4 prez

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    that was my first thought. no one to help him, and he's gone. which brings up a question. has anyone ever been offered a max entension and not signed it? and not only would lebron have to pass up the max extension, he'd have to go through the process of being a UFA and taking a qualifying offer for a year. unless he made it crystal clear he wasn't coming back in which case cleveland would just s&t him after his 4th year. and hey, LA just happens to have a superstar making in the same range as lebron would be. could you imagine an offseason with lebron as an unrestricted free agent? but like 101 6 7 said, lebron to NY/LA/CHI, it is his destiny.


    as for taking the money or playing with lebron. i don't know lebron personally and he could be a jerk for all we know (he seems to have quite an ego at least, but who wouldn't), and he could bolt, but just talking straight basketball and money, i could see myself going to the better team/lebron for slightly less money.

    true it's 92 versus 70 guaranteed, but the 92 is over 6 years, the 70 is over 5. michael redd is going to get another contract at the end of that one barring a grant hill-like injury, and whatever he gets in that first year will got a ways toward making up the 22 million dollar difference. so maybe we're talking 7 or 10 million over 6 years traded (at least theoretically) for actually winning a lot more over that time. there's nothing wrong with taking the money, but assuming you like playing basketball, i would think the extra happiness of winning would be worth something. i mean would consistently going deep in the playoffs versus the unmitigated horribleness of playing for the clippers of the 90's not be worth quite a bit once you're already rich? i mean, 92 or 70, you're obscenely rich either way, why not win along the way.

    it's not like a mobley situation where he's opting out to lock himself into possibly his last long term contract ever for virtually the same money per year. if something goes wrong for mobley, he's gone from 30M to 6M, and nothing will come afterwards. redd is going from 92 to 70, with more to come.
     

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