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ESPN Radio - NY, Hou and Wash talking 3 way deal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rileydog, Feb 15, 2010.

  1. J.R.

    J.R. Member

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    If you want to go after a guy who has 3+ years left on his contract and maybe overpaid according to some(yes Jamison is or will be getting paid a lot for a 36(?) year old and Iggy is overpaid too or will be) , minus well go after a guy like Iguodala(or a different SG), who is an actual need, unlike the PF spot. Overpay for what you need, not what you don't need. JMO
     
  2. TMac4Life#1

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    No because we do not need a PF period. If this was 3 years ago ok cool this would be a need. Now we don't need any more PF's. We need a wing guy who is capable of scoring and Iggy can do that. On top of that he is young. Guys act like he can't develop anything. What is he 25, 26? come on he has years left.

    Jamison is up there and his miles are just piling up. No need for a pf when you have Hayes, Scola ( who probably would be included ) , Landry , Anderson, Dorsey, come on. Why Jamison?? Because he spaces the Floor?? come on the Rockets don't need him and his contract.
     
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  3. abc2007

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    Now, maybe. But Scola is 4 years younger and much cheaper.

     
  4. HeyDude

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    But why not just trade straight with NY for Jordan Hill and expirings? You add a prospect and can keep playing the Scolandry combo instead of adding a 33 year old to a position of strength. Also, in your scenario, I seriously doubt we'd resign Scola when we'd have Yao, Jamison, Landry, Hill, Hayes, D. Anderson manning the PF / C positions in the other scenario. So in essence, you'd be losing TMAC + Scola for Jamison and Hill.....I'll pass...
     
  5. LifeisButaDream

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    Yao our best player is not getting any younger.
     
  6. reupdadj1

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    NO NEED FOR HILL

    Iggy is 8-10 years younger than Jamison so that comparison was not well thought out. Ok I agree with you on Dalembert tho
     
  7. J.R.

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    Should clarify myself.

    *You will be overpaying for what will be a 36(?) year old at the time. 15mil? No thanks. Again, I rather overpay for what will be a then 30(?) year old Iguodala or another SG, which is what we need.
     
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  9. abc2007

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    Do you think Yao+ Jamison will be enough to win the title? If this trade occurred, I bet Yao would leave and sign with another team.

     
  10. TMac4Life#1

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    From Rotoworld.com

    Mike D'Antoni hinted on Monday that he plans on playing his young guys the rest of the way, which makes us question why the Knicks are so interested in acquiring Tracy McGrady.
    We don't have a quote and the Knicks roster is not particularly old, but guys like Al Harrington, Chris Duhon, and Larry Hughes better hope for a trade. In addition, Jordan Hill and Marcus Landry could end up having more value than they currently do. And while we're at it, given the Knicks' lack of a point guard, it's still hard to believe they passed up Brandon Jennings and Ty Lawson in last year's draft.
    Source: Marc Berman on Twitter
    Related: Tracy McGrady, Larry Hughes, Chris Duhon, Jordan Hill, Marcus Landry
     
  11. reupdadj1

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    Amen!!!!! Rev. TMac4Life#1 dropping wisdom
     
  12. Rileydog

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    Reconsider -- the Bimathug Memorial thread --

    So, under the Iggy deal we take on $20+MM for next year. So we lose Scola, Lowry and MLE. I'm assuming we'd still figure out a way to use the 1st round pick and pay the guy. I think I have the numbers right.

    Under the Jamison and Hill deal, we take on $15-16MM in salary. We get to keep Lowry and use the MLE and our 1st round pick. That MLE could be a quality SG.

    You tell me which is the better team next year. Folks act like the Iggy and Dalembert deal come with no opportunity costs.
     
  13. wadero

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    I dont think we are going to trade for older players. We need some youth to build into a contender. We need a Hickson, Hill, Danillo, or I wish Rudy from Portland. No trade we pull off makes us a contender this year or next unless we get some young talent that Adelman can get playing well as a group like he did in Sactown. That is his model passing 5, atheltic 4 a 2 that can drive to the basket and a PG that can drop 3's and make great passes.
     
  14. jzsomeone

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    ROCKETS GET: NICK YOUNG, JORDAN HILL, CUTTINO MOBLEY, RANDY FOYE

    WASHINGTON GET: AL HARRINGTON

    NEY YORK GET: TRACY MCGRADY, A. BLATCHE

    THIS GIVES THE ROCKETS WANT THEY WANT YOUNG POTENTIAL PLAYERS WITH AN ADDITIONAL EXPIRING CONTRACT
     
  15. LifeisButaDream

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    Yes. With the right moves.
     
  16. Rileydog

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    Fair point on dealing with NY directly for Hill.

    We wouldn't resign scola, he is dealt away in the trade for Jamison.

    The question is whether Morey sees Jamison as someone can be part of a "reload" with Yao to make a run for it. Dada's quote is right -- Morey has referenced older players with more tread than you might think.

    Jamison might fit that description given his clean bill of health over his career.

    It unquestionable that he is a much better fit next to Yao than Scola. Both are average/poor defenders.
     
  17. Ramathorn006

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    And then Washington trades Jamison to Cavs for Big Z and Hickson?

    Makes some sense kinda
     
  18. abc2007

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    explain?

     
  19. Ramathorn006

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    What makes you think Yao would leave if this happened? lol that makes no sense.
     
  20. Rileydog

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    Cheaper yes. But the gap closes when Scola gets a new contract next year in the $7MM range.

    Does Scola really have more tread on his tires than Jamison? Scola is an old 29 having played international ball every summer for a very long time, and at a high level.
     

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