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ESPN Radio: Larry Brown will be hired as Pistons head coach on Monday

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thacabbage, May 31, 2003.

  1. RocksMillenium

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    That's true, but the advantage the Rockets have is that they're just as deep, and they have to franchise players who can potentially carry a team, Yao and Francis. And a 3rd go-to guy Cuttino Mobley. And a potentially 4th go-to guy in Griffin. The only proven go-to guy for the Pistons is Hamilton, and he doesn't consistently carry a team. Even if Darko does develop into a go-to guy, I think the Rockets have the better well-rounded team. The Pistons only won 7 more games then the Rocks, drop the Rockets in the East and we might have been the #1 seed.
     
  2. MacBeth

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    God, I hope not, but this might be on the money. Our continuation to interview others after Brown expressed interest seemed to me to be wise at the time, considering the fact that he might opt for another position. However it now appears that we were the only 'serious' contender for Brown's services prior to the Detroit job becoming available. I have said in several places that my one concern was that we would out-think ourselves, and that may well be what has come to pass.

    Detroit, on the other hand, appears to have moved with amazing expedition, and in that respect I guess you can say that we were outplayed. Once Brown became available, they didn't out-think themselves, and immediately grapsed the opportunity, the likes of which don't come around all that often.


    Damn.
     
  3. tsl99

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    He is not a go-to guy, he is a black hole in the team.
     
  4. SLA

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    LES IS PROBABLY PLAYING WITH HIS DOG AND DOESN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS.
     
  5. JPM0016

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    you know we could really use some inside info from someone? please, if your out there, what's going to happen. Larry Brown going to Detroit, Van Gundy going to Cleveland.
     
  6. GATER

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    I am utterly amazed at the lack of patience displayed here by some otherwise level-headed posters. The 2003-04 Rockets are suddenly in the dumpster because Larry Bown goes to Detoit? Absolute nonsense.

    Few of us are privy to what went on in the interview process. Perhaps CD and Les were not all that impressed when they met privately. Brown is an unequaled teacher, but there is much more to success than teaching alone. In spite of his many pluses, Larry Brown has never won the NBA Championship.


    Like him or not, Van Gundy is a very talented coach. Even though I love to watch fastbreaking teams, I'll be among the first to bite my tongue if the Rockets approach 48-50 wins with the dominating defense JVG would bring. There is no questioning JVG's heart and desire...he is an absloute workaholic.

    Mike Dunleavy is now fresh...and hungry. And although his teaching skills are not at Browns' level, MD is at least as good as anyone else available. The most intruiging thing about MD Sr is that he will get the Rox to uptempo! That does put fans in the seats. While not a flashy a name as Brown or JVG (or Riley or Nelson), Dunleavy will see to it that the Rockets move the ball around...and quickly. For a team that was 3-11 in games decided by 3 points or less, the faster pace will be a huge impact IMO.

    From Hottodie's bio on Carlisle, I was surprised to see him mentioned as an offensive minded coach. Carlisle was also a major reason behind Bird's success at Indy. If Carlisle comes to the Rox and the Raptors do not hire his (defensive) assistant Kevin O'Neil...these two could impact the Rox more than Larry Brown. Carlisle has a chip on his shoulder...humble and hungry anyone?

    I like Larry Brown, but I refuse to be negative about the Rockets ability to land a solid coach if he does in fact go to Detroit. See ya in the Finals, Larry. Better hope we don't bring Carlisle with us! ;)
     
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  7. fadeaway

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    Dang... this blows. I really wanted Brown or Van Gundy. Now it looks like neither is available.

    I suppose Dunleavy is a distant third. I do not want Silas or Carlisle.
     
  8. moligity

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    I for one am relieved that the Rockets are free of burden of hiring Brown.

    He's got a great "X's and O's" reputation, is a big name that will help sell seats (like Yao won't sell 'em by himself), and no doubt could lead the team to immediate success.

    But he's not the only highly skilled coach available, who knows how long he's going to stay. His past is checkered, he leaves teams resulting in NCAA sanction or rebuilding.

    Like Machiavelli wrote - you should never hire mercenaries -- they are essentially hired guns with selfish intentions. They are more liable to retreat or to give up when it gets tough.

    We need disipline and loyalty. I think Silas fits that to a tee. He definititly was loyay to the Hornets - through weird owners and the move, death - he kept that team toghether.

    He's tough, would be a great mentor to Yao.
    He's a great teacher - ask Charles
    He's be great for installing that team 1st concept.
    He's also known as a player's coach with disipline - the Rocks will continue to attract free agents.

    I don't see too many good arguments for not hiring Silas.
     
  9. Fegwu

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    Call me doubting Thomas but this does not make sense.

    I will believe it when I see it.


    We shall see.
     
  10. SLA

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    hehe. That would be cool!

    Where is Hottodie's bio of Rick Carlisle?
     
  11. NJRockFan

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    Lot's of quality coaches still available if this "source" is legit.
     
  12. JPM0016

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    i'm worried about the Rockets taking too long. With all of these coaching vacancies you can't just go at a slow pace. These hirings are about to fall into place with in the next few days.

    Larry Brown - Detroit
    Jeff Van Gundy - Cleveland

    the 2 so called front runners, the premier coaches are signed. Paul Silas is rumored to go to philly. Dunleavy lives next door to the hawks owner, there's a good chance he goes there if we don't do something soon.

    It's time to find the coach
     
  13. tsl99

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    Unfortunately, Larry Brown is the best avaible and Rockets owner just blew it. IMHO, other coaches are nowhere near to Larry Brown's level.

     
  14. Oski2005

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    Fingers crossed hoping for Dunleavy or Silas.
     
  15. GATER

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    Page 3, 15th post from the top. A definite good read on Carlisle.
     
  16. MacBeth

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    Gater...good post. However, I for one feel that there are more options than the Rockets being in the dumpster or the Rockets hiring Brown. I feel that we still have a great future, but that doesn't erase the fact that we had an amazing and rare opportunity, and for whatever reasons it now appears that that opportunity is gone.

    There are quality coaches available, and we will move forward. But we could have moved forward with possibly the best coach in the game, and a perfect fit to boot, who our resident star player had already been excited about, and we are now likely not going to. I say again...


    Damn.
     
  17. JayZ750

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    Exactly. The team of the East...yeah! Finals ever year before losing...yeah. Plus, does anyone know how the players felt about Carlisle. That's a good, real good, record they put out there. If they do hire Brown, they're not in the finals anymore than we are. It's one thing for a coach to change a scheme on a team where it wasn;t working (Rockets) and something else for a new coach to implement a new scheme where they had success anyway (Pistons).
     
  18. RIET

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    Yep.

    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  19. Jerry36

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    I agree, I just don't like the way he operates. If the Rockets really wanted brown, they should have sign him as soon as he became available. The Pistons didn't waste time and that's why they have him.
     
  20. ron413

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    I agree with your post to a certain extent, but it was in the name of patience that alot of Rocket fans excused the last four years of failure in the name of youth, injuries, etc.

    And now that we are making a big move into the new arena, with a new coach replacing Rudy T., new unis, new attitude supposedly. That is the urgency we all feel to make something happen NOW, be apart of something big if you will.

    Being patient is one thing, being stupid and naive about our position with all of these coaches & thinking you know what is going to transpire this week if we are patient is another. Make it happen already! We see figures being discussed for Van Gundy in Cleveland, Detroit will likely offer Brown close to $8 million THIS WEEKEND, and what have we done to show our top candidates that we want them to join our franchise? Granted them an initial getting to know each other meeting with promises of a follow-up the coming week...
     

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