ESPN Radio: Larry Brown will be hired as Pistons head coach on Monday

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*took a job only a few hours after a coach..a good one at that...got fired.
*took a job with a team that knocked you out of the playoffs...iverson should be pissed.

 

Ok, but after Monday rolls around and Larry Brown is announced as the new coach of the Pistons, Van Gundy as the new coach for the Cavs, Dunleavy to the Hawks, Silas to Philly, Carlisle to the Hornets, etc... Can we start whining then?

 

it sure is funny how so many people know exactly what happened behind the scenes and are quick to jump on cd and les for "blowing it." could it be possible that he wasn't even our first choice or maybe we wern't his.

i want larry brown as much as anyone else but he isn't the only option.

 

Rockets owner didn't even make an offer to Brown, it's obvious that the only explanation is, for Rockets owner, Brown may not be the first choice.

 

He's been scouting the kid and raving about him well before he ever got the number 2 pick.

 

I have to agree with heypartner on this one. Brown is, for lack of a better word, a real "quick-fix flake." IMHO, I think he's awfully shrewd in this respect... picking teams with "low expectation bars" and revitalizing them to a level of respectability. Once the bar of expections is raised, he realizes his chances for "positively surprising" management diminishes. And so he leaves.

There's no reason to think Brown isn't approaching his future the same way. I mean, the guy is 62 years of age. He's not about to get suckered into a job where he has a high probability of disappointing. IMO, the best bet for him is that LA Clippers job. If they give him a GM and Coaching position, what's the downside? Who wouldn't want more money and more power? Riley skipped out on the Knicks when the Knicks were arguably at their peak. He moved onto taking a big time management and coaching position with the Heat. I see Brown doing something similar at this point in his career.

Among the other candidates, the ones I feel are most sincere about coaching the Rockets b/c they believe in the Rockets are:

1. Mike Dunleavy
2. Jeff Van Gundy
3. Paul Silas

If past is prologue, then there's no reason to believe that Brown "sincerely" has the patience to see the Rockets all the way to the gold.

Just my thoughts.



theSAGE

 

true. it's disappointing but this is true. i think the best available coach for the rockets is.............Silas. Honestly, he seems to be able to get through to his young players. Silas also helps his big men develop...more like opening the door and let them walk through on their own. Dunleavy would be good in terms of working with veterans and level headed people. Carlisle would be a distant option IMO because he never seemed to want a 'superstar' on his team but rather just have 12 guys play as one and see where that gets him. And I don't see any 'player development' in his style of coaching.

 

I don't think so JayZ.....With Darko coming in, this could be the team out of the East for years to come.

 

OK, you know more than I about the draft. My point was merely that I'm sure Dumars would rave about Paul Pierce, too, and what if Boston offered you Pierce for a 17yr old Darko? Just as an example. anyhow...I don't know what I'm talking about regarding the draft, so take anything I say as pure speculation just as food for thought.

 

Okay guys when did Brown ever say he wanted to come to Houston. Just because we assume we have the best job others may think differently. For all we know he hates Texas and just used Houston to get more money.

 

All sources tell that Brown is the first choice.

In fact, the Cavs had offered JVG 5 years 25M contract because they can't wait when so many teams have coach vacancy. They want to push it hard on Van Gundy.

Meanwhile, you can tell JVG really seriously considered Rox and he refuse to make decision early this week. But couple sources convinced him that he is the top choice for CD and Les, in fact, he is behind Brown and Dunleavy. So he had no choice but going to Cavs.

I am sorry for Rox losing such a great , hard work coach. Although I never like Dunleavy, but I admit he is good coach, and if he become the head coach of Rox, I will still root for him and wish him the best.

 

couldnt have said it better myself!!!

 

Leave it to Brown to stay w/in the Eastern Conference where he has insights into, not only his former team, but pretty much the entire Conference. Slick, ain't it?

IMHO, Good luck and good riddance to Brown.

If indeed he's heading to Detroit, Rocket fans here need not feel disappointed. Unless anyone here can definitively say, "with Brown, we'd win the championship," there's really no reason to get hung up over not having Brown as a coach. Fact is, JVG, Silas, and Dunleavy are all strong candidates. More importantly, in the case of the latter two, we have coaches who have been quoted "on the record" as to how much they like the Rocket opening. Meanwhile, JVG, through his body language (e.g. refusing to interview with NewOrleans and keeping his distance from the Cavs), is telling us that he is sincerely interested in whatever Les has to offer.

We're going to get a great coach. No doubt about it.

Have faith folks. The future is bright.



theSAGE

 

"Ok, but after Monday rolls around and Larry Brown is announced as the new coach of the Pistons, Van Gundy as the new coach for the Cavs, Dunleavy to the Hawks, Silas to Philly, Carlisle to Sixers, etc... Can we start whining then?"

Actually, it would be pretty funny seeing Philadelphia with two coaches (Carlisle and Silas)... Seriously, I understand your concern but there are still plenty of good coaching candidates...

 

I'd like for the team to take a look at Carlisle. Here's his BIO. It's pretty interesting & he's only 42 years old.

http://www.nba.com/coachfile/rick_carlisle/index.html?nav=page

Rick Carlisle

College - Virginia

Rick Carlisle’s 17 years in the NBA as a player, assistant coach and head coach have been synonymous with hard work and success. He enters his second season at the helm of the Detroit Pistons in 2002-03 after being named the 23rd head coach in franchise history on May 23, 2001.
Carlisle, 42, is looking to build upon a 2001-02 campaign that saw the Pistons win the NBA’s Central Division Championship for the first time since 1989-90, reach the second round of the NBA Playoffs for the first time since 1990-91 and win 50-plus games for the first time since 1996-97. The team’s success earned him NBA Coach of the Year honors in his first year as a head coach, a feat accomplished by only five other NBA coaches [Harry Gallatin – St. Louis 1962, Johnny Kerr – Chicago 1966-67, Mike Schuler – Portland 1986-87, Larry Bird – Indiana 1997-98, Doc Rivers – Orlando 1999-00]. Carlisle’s 50 wins were the most by a first-year head coach in franchise history and he joined Ray Scott as the only other coach in Pistons history to win NBA Coach of the Year honors.

His tough-minded approach led the Pistons to an 18-game turnaround in 2001-02 (50-32 - the second-best turnaround for any team during the season) and a first-round playoff series victory over Toronto. The key to the turnaround was the increased efficiency that Carlisle’s system brought to the offense and defense. The Pistons’ offense ranked eighth in field goal percentage (.452), 13th in free throw percentage (.756) and sixth in three-point field goal percentage (.376) during the 2001-02 season after ranking 28th, 24th and 15th, respectively, during 2000-01. The defense improved by ranking sixth in points allowed (92.2 ppg) during the 2001-02 season after ranking tied for 24th overall (97.3 ppg) during 2000-01.

An assistant coach in the NBA for 11 seasons, Carlisle enjoyed a significant amount of success on the bench. The teams that he was associated with (New Jersey, Portland and Indiana) made eight postseason appearances. He made two trips to the playoffs with New Jersey in 1992-93 and 1993-94 and made three trips to the playoffs with Portland (1994-95, 1995-96 and 1996-97). All three of the Indiana teams he was associated with made trips to the playoffs, with the 1998-99 squad reaching the Eastern Conference Finals and the 1999-2000 team reaching the NBA Finals. Carlisle helped the 1997-98 Indiana squad win 58 games, the most regular-season wins for the franchise since it joined the NBA in 1976.

Studying under long-time NBA coaches Bill Fitch and Chuck Daly in New Jersey, P.J. Carlesimo in Portland and former teammate Larry Bird in Indiana, Carlisle earned a reputation as one of the top young offensive minds in the game. In each of Indiana’s last two seasons, which culminated in trips to the Eastern Conference Finals and NBA Finals, respectively, the Carlisle-led offensive scheme ranked sixth in the league in 1998-99 and fourth in the league in 1999-00. Over his last seven seasons as an assistant, the teams that Carlisle was associated with ranked no lower than 16th in the league in scoring and ranked in the top-10 during four of those seven seasons. The teams he was associated with won 50-plus games twice (Indiana in 1999-00 and 1997-98), 45-plus games twice (Portland in 1996-97 and New Jersey in 1993-94) and 40-plus games eight times.

Originally selected by the Boston Celtics in the third round of the 1984 NBA Draft (70th overall), Carlisle enjoyed a solid three-year run as a role-player with the Celtics from 1984 through 1987. He reached the NBA Finals in each of his three seasons with Boston, winning the NBA Championship in 1985-86. Carlisle played the final two seasons of his five-year playing career with New York and New Jersey, finishing his career with averages of 2.2 points and 1.1 assists in 188 games. He enjoyed his best season as a pro during Boston’s championship year, when he averaged 2.6 points, 1.4 assists and 1.0 rebounds in 77 games, one as a starter.

A native of Ogdensburg, New York, Carlisle spent two seasons at the University of Maine before transferring to the University of Virginia (1982-84), where he served as co-captain of the Cavaliers’ 1984 NCAA Final Four team. He earned a Bachelor of Arts Degree in psychology while at Virginia. Carlisle’s interests off the court include golf, piano and spending time with his wife, Donna, and their dogs, Moe Norman and Zoe.

 

This is all according to a "source". So far they have been wrong before. JVG was suppose to be hired by the cavs two weeks ago.

It may come to pass that Brown goes to the Pistons but I'll believe everything when it actually happens. Who knows maybe it's a ploy by Brown to force our hand.

 

Haha, my bad. My only point was that Les should just bite the bullet and wrap his Coaching decision up this weekend!

 

I disagree, I think that the Rockets are more talented then Detroit, and I think the Rockets will have a better crack at a championship just because Yao Ming looks to be a great player who can carry a team. I didn't want Larry Brown anyway, he wouldn't have been here long. Get Rick Carlisle!

 

I don't know....with the way the Pistons are set up right now...it's hard to say unless Yao puts up monster numbers. If Darko develops in a Dirk clone....well basically it would be a pretty solid team.

 

This is another astute observation. Brown is old. Brown is shrewd. If anyone knows like to negotiate, vis-a-vis, a bidding war for his services, it's Brown. All this talk of Brown going to Detroit could very well be posturing. Who in fact knows? I mean, sure some "source" says so, but honestly, until it's a done deal, what does any of this really mean other than open speculation and posturing??? Don't be surprised if Brown plays up all his suitors en route toward getting the best pkg deal whereever he goes. Is this happenning with JVG and the Cavs?

Maybe, maybe not. But what's interesting here is that the Cavs are pretty much wearing their "heart on their sleeve" in giving JVG a pretty nice deal. Yet how come it's not enough to entice the young coach? Is JVG playing these NBA owners off one another to get a better deal?

Dunleavy, Silas... both of them, given their approach toward this process, seem clean in my book. JVG is a moot point. Brown is worth a hard question or two.



theSAGE