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ESPN Radio: Larry Brown will be hired as Pistons head coach on Monday

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thacabbage, May 31, 2003.

  1. WoodlandsBoy

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    This explains why Larry Brown might go to Detroit so that he could get Cheeks back to Philly.....
     
  2. windandsea

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    OK. They made an offer to Brown and THEN interviewed Silas yesterday. How smart they are.
     
  3. Hobbs

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    I love those last couple of lines (There is absolutely no comparison btw the Rockets and Detroit as far as the attractiveness of talent. Heck, even the CAVs are more appealling on paper than the Pistons.). It's part of the reason it's so much fun watching Detroit beat teams.

    Detroit is in beautiful shape for the future. They know how to win without a superstar, they've got the leverage to get a superstar (2nd pick), their best players are young, they've got a very low payroll, they've got depth, they've got draft picks coming from other trades, they've got good management, etc.
     
  4. daniel-bfl

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    Now I really love Brown. He said to Wizard that it's disrespectful to talk about the job before the job is still held by somebody else. Then Wizard fired Collins right after that. One day later, Pistons fired their coach and announced the new coach will be Brown. So Pistons hired Brown without an interview, or Brown is the biggest hypocrite in the world.


     
  5. Tenchi

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    Maybe everything was set up before hand, Carlisle to Portland, Cheeks to Philly, and Brown to Detroit to fill in Carlisle's position or maybe Brown could be a hypocrite, it sorta looks that way if the deal has already been made.
     
  6. Panda

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    LB is 63 years old and has a history of hopping around teams.

    I'm not disappointed, although I'd be happy if he's the coach. The Rockets need several years to develop anyway. JVG and Carlisle are both young and intelligent coaches that can step in and contribute.
     
  7. TheReason

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    Well damn it all to hell! Actually I'm not that dissapointed in not getting Brown (if he really is going to Detroit) because I also think he wouldn't stay for long. I think Les and CD should make a move on Carlisle...NOW!
     
  8. Baqui99

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    Personally, I don't want that dork, Larry Brown, to be our next coach. We should see the games he's playing with teams right now as a good sign. He's jerking around with like 3 different teams.

    Rick Carlisle firing is a blessing in disguise. It's a mystery how he got a team built around Rip Hamilton and BWallace to the conference finals. He BEAT Larry Brown this year, and badly outcoached him in the process. The choice is clear here: Carlisle.
     
  9. Manny Ramirez

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    Disagree. You do realize that Larry Smith was essentially this type of coach? One that had no experience but tried to manage and motivate people?

    If we go this route, then we might as well admit that we are going to miss the playoffs again.

    This is a team that needs a stern taskmaster to get the guys to "get it'. This is NOT a team that has the luxury of hiring a coach and allowing him to have his growing pains as they are fighting to get into the playoffs.
     
  10. SageHare6

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    Hungry Coaches Work Harder
    The appeal of this Houston opening should be apparent to any candidate who is remotely SERIOUS about winning a championship. Everything else is just $$$ noise.

    But above all, in the spirit of RudyT, Houston DESERVES a coach who is LOYAL to the city of Houston, and not some transient team-hopper. Larry Brown is TOO SHREWD to pass up a good DOLLAR opportunity. He knows that the NBA is a business and it behooves him to keep "moving" and upgrading his market value. Contrast that with RudyT... a man of high integrity, loyalty, and TRUE dedication to not only Rocket fans but the city of Houston. Where are you going to find a coach like that? If history is any indication, it's not among the 60 and over crowd.

    Young and hungry. That's where the passion is at. You see the effects of "maxing out $$$ contracts" among players as they push 30. An analogous phenomenon can be said about veteran coaches too. $$$ has a way of leading coaches, even those with the highest IQs, to sell out in the name of greed. Some people may say, "but to get the best coaching talent, we have to pay up." That's baloney, IMO. To think that Brown would work harder than say JVG or Dunleavey or Silas b/c he commands greater market value is simply outrageous. Moreover, coaches like Red Auerbach, RudyT, even Phil Jackson, were hardly top $$$ earners when they were winning championships.

    It's all about the desire to win. And given all that I've read so far, the "hungriest man" for the job is clearly Dunleavey. Whatever biases people have of him for failing to succeed with Portland and the Lakers should be left in the past. This problem of finding a suitable coach will solve itself by letting the coaches duke it out for the Rocket job and not the other way around.

    :D

    theSAGE
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    Apparently they were very smart, since it appeared Brown had been seeing other teams as well. Thank goodness we interviewed other people or we would have been completely in the dark.

    By the way has there been in change in Carlisle's decision not to coach at all next year?

    If he's available let's get him. I don't care that he hasn't designed the most offensively efficient team, and it appears our team really needs that. I think Carlisle has proven he's a winner. Let's take him, and thrash the Pistons both times we play them for years to come.
     
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    Taken from the Detroit thread...

    "Stephen A. Smith was just on DSR (Detroit Sports Radio I assume) and said that the Pistons have signed Larry Brown to a 5 year deal worth 25 million. He also stated there will be a press conference to announce the hiring on Tuesday. "
     
  13. NJRockFan

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    Nicely said. Dunleavy should be admired for his fire that will translate to the basketball court. I think there are several good candidates available including silas and carlisle.
     
  14. Mingaling

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    Ihave to agree with some of the others here, I question wether or not Brown would have the commitment that us fans here appreciate, good riddence. As far as Dunleavy..let him go to Atlanta, i agree that he did let good talent go to waste in jermaine o'neal. I don't like Van Gundy, although he is a great coach, i really didnt like the way he jumped on marvs bandwagon and raggin on fratelo. Maybe Carlile is our best bet at this point, we bettee at least interview the man. The Brass need to get in gear Now!:mad: :mad:
     
  15. Rileydog

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    I think MacBeth said this, and it's so true: the fact that teams are falling over themselves and canning perfectly competent coaches to get Brown speaks to the level of respect that he commands in the league. I can't remember if there has ever been so much demand for any coach.

    It's the 11th hour and we're on the clock. The fact is, if you hire Brown, you take him with all his baggage and terms, including serious input if not influence on personnel decisions. Dumars is a young bright executive. CD is, well, not. It's time to offer Brown the GM and head coach position that he wants. Even if we don't give him official final authority on personnel, we can keep CD as a puppet, just like it he was when Rudy was here. Brown's not stupid enough to trade Yao or Francis. Who cares about the rest. Let him build this team.

    This is high stakes poker. Sometimes you have to just grab your chips and go all in. This is the time.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    If Brown wanted too much control over personel decisions we are better off without him. HE wasn't going to be around that long, and we wouldn't want his legacy of bad moves left behind. He has been my number one choice, but he's not so far ahead of the others that it's worth giving him control of player personel.

    I wouldn't mind letting him have a voice, but very limited control.
     
  17. Rileydog

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    the only thing that the pistons haven't offered brown is GM type power. The only question left for Les to decide is whether to offer that to Brown. Otherwise, forget about it.

    Brown can tell Detroit, sorry, but Houston offered me something you didn't. Otherwise, I just don't see him turning down detroit.

    i think clutch needs to take the ban off cursing for a few hours. the frustration is mounting in a serious way.
     
  18. HoRockets

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    Beautifully put Sage. Here, Here to Dunleavy as new head coach.
     
  19. fatman510

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    Sage - I think I want Dunleavy about 100% more now:D .
     
  20. GladiatoRowdy

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    Personally, I like Carlisle.

    He helped Ben Wallace get DPOY and took him with Hamilton and scrubs to get to the EC Finals. His players play hard nosed defense and he got the most out of his guys. He has a great record in the regular season and in the playoffs and probably won't command a GM position this early in his career. The coaching job he did this year leading his team to 3 straight wins over the Magic ranks right up there in my mind with Rudy bringing the Rox back from 3-1 against the Suns. He is capable, hard working, and is a proven winner.

    PS - Calvin will love all the 17 foot jump shots. Did you see all the 17 foot jump shots the pistons took? Uncanny.
     

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