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ESPN Radio: Larry Brown will be hired as Pistons head coach on Monday

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thacabbage, May 31, 2003.

  1. Easy

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    For those who blame Les and CD for not getting Brown are hypocrites. How many of you felt good about us being the most coveted place to coach before today? How many of you thought about a team good team might fire their successful coach to get Brown before today?

    Let's for argument's sake and grant that Brown is the best coach available. Let's further grant that Les and CD could have landed him had they acted quicker. How were they supposed to know the development in Detroit? Everybody that follows the NBA, with the exception of the Pistons and Brown himself (if he knew this before they fired Carlisle), agreed that Houston WAS THE PLACE TO BE for any coach seeking a job.



    Now, if Brown really goes to Detroit, I hope we get Carlisle. And I hope we go to the Finals someday against the Pistons and beat the heck out of them, and laugh at Dumars's sorry face! (Sorry, I love Dumars. But this one doesn't sound right.)
     
  2. Deuce Rings

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    Actually, you missed the head of the nail by a mile. The only good PR moves in this Brown scenario are:

    (1) Brown expresses that he is not interested in the Houston job: Proper PR response would be to release this information to the public, you know the people you are trying to sell seats in a brand new arena to.

    (2) Brown expresses interest in the job: Make Brown an offer and let the public know as much.

    Any other action by the Rockets organization other than one or two leads me to believe that they had no intention of hiring Brown. Without doing one of the two things baove, you're setting yourself up for a major PR hit when Brown is hired elsewhere. It makes it looks as if the organization didn't even try.
     
  3. Deuce Rings

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    He's worth it and more.
     
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    I honestly think that we are going to end up with Mike Dunleavy unfortunately. Although now that I think about it Avery Johnson would be a good coach but our owner wants an experienced coach. We need a young coach to deal with these young eagos that the Rockets have aka Francis and Mobley. These old guys can't hack it with these guys except for Larry brown
     
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    Exactly!!!!!!!

    Just don't understand why guys like Dunleavy to be Rockets' coach, this guy is horrible.


     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Brown is my first choice, but he isn't the be all to end all. If Les said he likes stability, then Brown wouldn't be the top choice at all.

    Brown is a quick fix, and a bandaid. I want him because I think that's all the Rockets need right now, and if they hire Brown knowing that he wont' be particularly loyal to the team, and groom a replacement the whole time Brown is here, I think we are in the best shape. I think absorbing Brown's teaching and knowledge while he's here all the while grooming an assistent to replace him when he leaves makes the most sense.

    But if Les and CD are really looking for a guy who's going to stick around and grow with the team, then Larry Brown isn't the one to hire. I wouldn't blame them if they want someone for the long term.
     
  7. Deuce Rings

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    Bingo!!
     
  8. hmittal

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    I think larry brown is trying for money that's the bottom line
     
  9. couch_pot8o

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    might be.. by pressuring detroit and houston, he can sqeeuze joe dumars, cd, and les to give him what LB wants.. man, LB is clever..lol
     
  10. Manny Ramirez

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    David,

    Dunleavy could become like Adelman and prosper in Houston compared to Portland, but I just don't have much confidence that would happen. If Larry Brown was NOT available, I probably wouldn't mind Dunleavy that much because I would feel that he is the best choice out there; however, knowing that Brown is *still* possibly available, Dunleavy, all of the sudden, is not that attractive to me anymore.

    Just maybe things will work out differently for Mike in Houston than they did in Portland, but when I look at guys like Francis, Mobley, Cato, and Mo, I just don't see Dunleavy being the guy that they are going to respect.

    I know many players may not like Larry Brown, but I think they all respect him. Can we honestly say the same for Dunleavy? I don't think we can.

    Riley would be interesting; however, I would not want to see his thug brand of ball. We have the talent to be a very good fastbreaking uptempo team. If Riley tries to have us play like his Knicks and Heat team, then it will be as hard for me to watch this team as it was this past season. It would be like if Van Gumby was in charge and we would be subjected to constant 76-75 games. Ugh.

    We NEED Brown and if we can't get him, try to talk Nellie into coming here.
     
  11. codell

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    I disagree. The Rockets rarely, if ever, release details on negotiations. At this point in time, Les and CD want to find the right head coach for this team. I don't think they are going to lose season tickets because they won't release negotiation details.

    I disagree again. You explore all your options. Brown is not head and shoulders, the best coach in the NBA. Arguments can be made that Van Gundy, Silas, Carlisle and Dunleavy are all great coaches in their own right. Just because Brown expresses interest, doesn't mean you jump over the table and hand him a contract to sign without exploring what else is out there (especially since Brown has his baggage).

    Also, you don't know if we have made him an offer or not. ;)

    If this is the case, then Gater did hit the nail on the head by saying that people should stop critisizing CD and Les.

    How is this so? You are basing this on your personal opinion that Brown is the best option for this team. If CD and Les, as the GM and owner of this team, do not feel Brown is the best option, then I don't think they should have to follow the rules that you stipulated.
     
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    Larry Brown was my first choice as well,...but this is a good point by FranchiseBlade...The positive in not getting what Brown can do for us is the issue of stability. I think stability is particularly important to this fairly young team due to the better sense of direction players can expect...

    I still want an aggressive, demanding coach that will be unwavering in an asserted, uptempo style. Not to bad-mouth Rudy, but he lacked this aspect...

    I am not big on Van Gundy or Dunleavy, or really any other "big" names...Rivers would probably be a great choice...There are others no doubt...We shall see...
     
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    I don't really follow what exactly takes CD and Les so long to make a decision on the coach. I mean they have already known each of these candidates personally for 10-30 years. WTF are they doing waiting around?? Is CD looking at frickin game tape on Dunleavy and JVG??
     
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    They might be sitting back taking their time because they think the Rockets is the number one job out there and everyone will come up and kiss Les' ass for the opportunity to coach the team. So all of the cards are in the Rockets hands which allows for them to take their time.

    Another job well done.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    It could have to do with salary, control over player personel, and how much involvement they will have. It could have to do with how long the coaches in question will want to stay in Houston. There are a million things to iron out
     
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    Or, they might be sitting back taking their time because they are waiting for Brown to decided between Detroit and Houston (per reports).

    Something to think about .........................
     
  17. Deuce Rings

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    It's so Easy to love Easy!!
     
  19. Deuce Rings

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    Yeah, that occurred to me too, that this news leaking to ESPN earlier today could be a desperate attempt by the Pistons to keep Brown from going to Houston when they were about to fire Carlisle for whatever reason. However, I do not think this is the most likely explanation. We'll see soon.
     
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    Joe Dumars is one gutsy SOB.

    1 pick was the difference between Joe Dumars and Steve Harris. Knowing Ray Patterson, he wouldve still picked Steve Harris.

    This a gutsy gutsy move. Why?

    In Houston, many people were disappointed that the Rockets did not make the playoffs and Rudy's health was a concern. People suspected that Houston might make a change. It certainly wasn't a total shock.

    In Detroit, Rick Carlise's team went to the Eastern Conference finals and Joe Dumars just fired someone many considered one of the finest young coaches in the game.

    We don't know what happened but he saw Brown was available and he went for the jugular.

    I don't care what anyone says but it takes brass balls to make a move like that.

    This move could backfire but Detroit said screw it, we're taking our chances even if it means ridicule 5 years down the road.

    Meanwhile, back at home, all's quiet on the Western front.
     

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