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[ESPN]No Mention of Rockets in trade talks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by WhoMikeJames, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. jopatmc

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    I would think Chicago may have interest in a Luther/Duhon swap of some sort. Luther would be a cheap poor man's replacement for Gordon. They could then move Gordon for conceivably something else. And I like Sefalosha too. Wouldn't mind having him along with Duhon. But I don't see why we would want Gordon. He's another undersized shooting guard who can't play the point, where we need the most help and Sefalosha isn't a shooter either right now. We need a point that can drain some shots. That's Duhon or Delonte based on what we have to offer.
     
  2. jopatmc

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    Snyder/Head could work. Send Synder for TE. Use TE to get Delonte. Seattle uses that TE to get Luther. Pretty easy. That is, if that is what they want. Personally, I'd like to lose Luther in this trade to open up a roster spot for Mike Harris. I still think that guy is worth getting on the team.
     
  3. smoothie

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    personally, i see head for west as a lateral move. west is a bit of a better defender, but overall their stats are very similar. at one inch taller and 5lbs lighter i don't see went doing any better against bigger guards.

    plus since his contract is up this summer he will probably want a raise from his rookie contract. additionally, the rockets seem to not want to add contracts longer than tmacs. a short term deal would probably not appeal to west.

    the one reason to go for the deal..besides some PG help come playoff time, is getting under the LT and saving less a bunch of money.

    send snyder for seattle's TE. then swap head for west straight up. seattle does it to get some value for west before he bolts this summer.
     
  4. jopatmc

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    The other major difference is West has a decent handle. He can actually play the point, which Luther very evidently cannot do.
     
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    If you can say the teams we've beaten lately haven't been very good, then I can rightfully say the teams that we've lost to have been good teams. Since when do the rockets have to explain have to make a trade after a stretch of losing to good teams. We've been under-performing, that is undeniable, but how can you compare this current team with the one that lost all those games when we've made several changes to the lineup? You say this current team isn't very good. Prove it.
     
  6. Purvis2Short

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    Rockets need a reliable point guard, Rafer is doing pretty okay for the moment but his inconsistencies scare me...everytime he shot the ball last game I cringed because I thought no way its going in....Let me put it this way, I'd hate to be in a close game depending on Rafer to hit the outside shot on a consistent basis....
     
  7. smoothie

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    i might have spoken too soon before. i was judging by numbers alone, but after some thought; the ability to play him at both guard positions would be one of a few pluses to this move. another being the fact that he's a better on ball defender and better at finishing around the rim.

    les would also save millions by unloading snyder for their TE.

    but, west might want a long term contract this summer and the rockets seem to want to keep incoming contracts no longer than tmacs.
     
  8. bleh12345

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    If we do trade, we trade for a starting PG and if not, a rotation PG, and nothing else! Aim for Bibby / Gordon / West etc, and forget about Mike Miller/ Ron Artest.

    With Scola replacing Hayes, Alston has got to be the weakest link in our starting lineup; while the PG spot is the weakest spot in our rotation.

    On offense, last game Portland was doubling Yao off Rafer until he hit 3s after 3s in the third, does anyone think Rafer could do that consistently? How about Brooks and Mike James? Brooks has a few nice games but he's a rookie, and a very undersized rookie. MJ is now our victory cigar.

    Defensively, Rafer is generally the worst among our starters, he's flat out abused by bigger stronger guards like Baron, Deron, CP, on teams that we're contending with. Can we put Shane on every PG that abuses Alston?

    Our 7-0 run is great and all but anyone who think we are a legit contender with our Alston/Brooks/MJ PG rotation is quite simply blinded.
     
  9. drich

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    we will not find out till the day after the trade dead line so I say do not be reactive but be proactive trade for a mike miller, corey maggette, or ron artest type of player and gamble that rafer with this type of player added will get us deeper in the playoffs. the thing is not to give up battier in these trades.
     
  10. nejyh

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    The only trade I'd like to see completed is dumping Snyder for a trade exception and then Morey can sign Harris for the reminder of the season, before another team shows interest.
     
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    So they can have cap space in the summer of 2010 to go after Lebron, Wade, Melo....? (Isn't that when those players become available?)
     
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    Duhon's shooting numbers are worse than Rafer's. Not sure he is the solution.
     
  13. jopatmc

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    No, Rafer cannot bang down the shots consistently. His career proves it. That's why I'm saying Brooks has to get more minutes and get his shot going. We know he can bang it down, but he rarely plays as the point with 111 Battier and Scola. I want to see that happen and let Rafer knock around with the 2nd unit.


    I would bet we could get Bibby if we were willing to give up Brooks, expirings, and James along with a draft pick. But I'm not sure I want to give up Brooks. I think Brooks could be everything Bibby is and more.
     
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    Ehh, don't let Duhon's game against GS the other night fool you. He's still a one trick pony that does nothing but chuck three's and is okay at a lot of things but great at nothing. His career shooting numbers are nearly identical to Rafer's. Mind you, Rafer looks like Steve Nash compared to him.

    Gordon and Sefalosha wouldn't be my ideal trade either, but with reports like this saying Chicago is all over the board and they're willing to sell Gordon for pennies you have to be interested. Sure, Gordon essentially is a very rich man's Luther Head but if you swapped the two in a trade I think that makes us better. Gordon is much more explosive, can get his own shot and can play a little point.

    I would take a chance on him in the hopes that we could convince him to play for a reasonable new contract in the offseason. Either take $5-7 million a year for a championship contender or you go and try to get the Hawks or somebody else under the cap to overpay. Probably unlikely.

    Just an idea. Not my ideal choice though so I definitely see what you're saying.
     
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    If Houston wants Delonte West, they need to get Wally in this too.

    Snyder/Francis/James/Head/Novak

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    West/Wally

    It's going to be hard to do a 2 for 5 deal in terms of roster space for Seattle, but this sheds off about 5-6 mil of their books after this year. They would only have Head and James on for next year.

    If Memphis' demands for Miller is too much, the Rockets should look long and hard at Szczerbiak..especially if a deal for him still has the Rockets keeping Bonzi.


    Alston/Brooks/West
    McGrady/Wells
    Battier/Szczerbiak
    Scola/Landry
    Yao/Hayes

    I think with a shooter like Wally, we should still be able to compete with anyone in the West.
     
  16. Jelle

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    The Mavs get Kidd back, we get Cassell back, couldn't be more perfect :D
     
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    I am not happy of reports saying they'll trade Stackhouse and then a buy out from NJ and after 60 days Dallas will get him back. This is a scam.
     
  18. steddinotayto

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    No, it's smart GM skills.
     
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    We need Cassell right now.

    Spurs, Mavs, Lakers and Suns have all made their deals. Golden State signed Webber to shore up their 4/5 spot. Sacramento is almost certainly going to make a deal. Hornets, Jazz and Nuggets are playing exceptional basketball.

    That's 9 teams right there, at least 7 of which we have to top.

    We are playing excellent basketball right now and all we need is someone like Sam to bring some more heart to the team, and add depth to our PG position. We can NOT go into the playoffs with Rafer playing 40 minutes per game again. He is NOT a 40min player.

    We need to bring Sammy in. Rest him a while. Then bring him into the flow of things slowly so that by the time the end of regular season arrives, he's got no injuries and has gelled with the team.

    We can make it happen (Francis + Snyder + Head). I think the Clips would go for that deal too as, right now, I feel they're only hanging on to him because he's an expiring contract.
     
  20. Jelle

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    Francis is undergoing surgery, it's not even an option to trade an injured player right ?

    I hope DM is busy working out a deal on the DL so everybody's shocked when they eventually make a trade on the 20th :) Keep hope alive, keep hope alive
    Cassell back would make this season even better than it already is and we definetly have a shot already at going deep into the playoffs. Add Cassell and there's no stopping us...Yao, Mcgrady, Francis & Mutombo finally get their rings !! Of course everybody else too :D
     

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