ESPN News: Ford Reports Snow May be Traded to Houston

hey I work for a great company with an office downtown (with a view of the stadium)... does that count for anything ?!

 

Snow may not be a 3-point shooter, but he's a decent medium range shooter. I would compare him to Avery Johnson. Johnson was a horrific 3-point shooter but a good medium range shooter. That didn’t stop the Spurs from having success and winning a championship with him.

I think maybe the Rocket's past reliance on 3-point shooting has made people believe that living by the 3 is the only way to win championships.

 

Jeff Van Gundy hasn't ever played with a bad 3 point shooter at PG either...

 

I still think Snow is our best option at PG. Granted, we need to get more than just Snow for the Trade Exception, but there's no reason something can't be worked out. We need depth, and Philly can help us with that.

We are most likely stuck with Mo and Spoon, but I bet we can trade Howard for someone halfway decent.

I'm sure we can offer the MLE to a player who fills a position need.

In short, I think we have a good chance to fill some holes.

 

Blah. All this blather about Fisher, Snow, and Barry. People seem to forget: They are all 30 years old or older (DFish turns 30 during the season). So, you want to pair an old PG with our new young core? No thanks. I want a point guard who can grow with our Dynamic Duo (besides Lue or Gaines, whom I don't think are the answer for us).

The solution: Carlos Arroyo.

5.0 APG in 28.3 MPG last year (8.5 assists per 48 minutes!) and holds a .433 career FG %. Plus, he should come cheap. Did I mention he'll turn 25 in July?

 

I think with all these young guys it'd be good to have a tough veteran like Fisher to run the PG duties. Fisher is 30, that's not that old. He's got a good 3-4 years of very productive ball in him.

 

Thought I'd thought this info out...

Rafer Alston – Height: 6-2 Weight: 177 Born: Jul 24, 1976 (will be 28)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3282/career

Career 36.8% 3PT FG% with a career 37.4% FG%. Last year is the first time he played over 50 games in a season (1 year wonder?). Career 2.7 A/T ratio.

Coming off a minimum 1 year deal with Miami so could probably be had for 1.5M-2.0M a year.


Brent Barry - Height: 6-6 Weight: 203 Born: Dec 31, 1971 (will be 33)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3017/career

Career 40.7% 3PT FG% with a career 46.4% FG%. Career 2.2 A/T ratio.

Will be expensive and is looking for a longer-term deal I read (3-4 years). Probably can be had for MLE (5.0-5.5M?) starting.


Derek Fisher - Height: 6-1 Weight: 205 Born: Aug 9, 1974 (will be 30)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3325/career

Career 36.8% 3PT FG% with a career 39.8% FG%. Career 2.7 A/T ratio.

Coming off a 3M contract with Lakers, could be had for around 3M-4M starting.


Troy Hudson - Height: 6-1 Weight: 175 Born: Mar 13, 1976 (will be 29)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3235/career

Career 33.0% 3PT FG% with a career 40.5% FG%. Career 2.1 A/T ratio.

Was to make around 3.0M this year but opted out. Now probably expect to get around 3.0-4.0M starting


Carlos Arroyo - Height: 6-2 Weight: 202 Born: Jul 30, 1979 (will be 25)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3585/career

Career 32.5% 3PT FG% with a career 44.3% FG%. Last year was the first time player over 50 games in a season (1 year wonder?). Career 2.2 A/T ratio.

Coming off a 1 year 1M deal in Utah. Probably can be had for around 1.5M-2M starting if Utah doesn’t want him.


Eric Snow - Height: 6-3 Weight: 204 Born: Apr 24, 1973 (will be 32)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3045/career

Career 20.1% 3PT FG% with a career 43.2% FG%. Career 3.0 A/T ratio.

Has 5 years left on his deal that will pay him 30.5M with 4.9M next year thought 2008/9 season for 7.3M


Antonio Daniels - Height: 6-4 Weight: 205 Born: Mar 19, 1975 (will be 30)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3175/career

Career 33.2% 3PT FG% with a career 45.1% FG%. Career 2.8 A/T ratio.

Is under contract with Seattle for 2.2M and a player option for next season at 2.2M


Tyronn Lue - Height: 6-0 Weight: 178 Born: May 3, 1977 (will be 28)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3266/career

Career 38.5% 3PT FG% with a career 43.2% FG%. Career 2.7 A/T ratio.

On a 1 year 1.65M contract with Houston.


Steve Francis - Height: 6-3 Weight: 200 Born: Feb 21, 1977
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3325/career

Career 34.6% 3PT FG% with a career 43.1% FG%. Career 1.7 A/T ratio.

 

May I have a link please?
It just sounds too good to be true.

 

Snow is not a scorer. He's big, pass-first PG. He smart and strong. If he plays with "stars" like McGrady and Yao. His game will improve as well.

If he could shoot 44% like he did two years ago that would be great.

Also note that Snow shot .111% last year from the 3-pt line. BUT, he only took 18 shots!

Yes, that 2-18 from the 3pt line. True, he's not a good 3pt shooter. But he doesn't take that many either. Just wanted to point that out. His best game is the mid-range jumper.

 

The issue isn't points, but strategy.

When you have an inside presence, you best utilize the spacing by having the 1-3 spot players be able to nail the 3. If you have even one who cannot, you give up considerable advantage by giving the other team the opportunity to double.

Acquiring Snow would damage our half-court O badly.

 

Ya know, if we were to trade for Snow, I would rather we trade Spoon for Snow staight up instead of using any of the T.E. Philly would probably do this because Spoon's contract ends MUCH sooner than Snow's. And right now Philly looks like they just want to dump Snow. That way we just turn Spoon's contract slot into Snow (much like we turned Moochie+Amechi into Spoon).

If we were able to turn Spoon into Snow then we would still have our TE and our MLE to make additional roster adjustments and the addition of Snow wouldnt really be a huge cap hit since Spoon would be off the books via the trade.

 

Deuce,
I hope it goes down just the way you say. That would be perfect.

 

Well, I seriously doubt the Rocket's are looking for the 3pt reliance of the past. We certaintly are looking for 3pt shooters on the perimeter to RELY on as the deciding factor between a win or loss.

And, Macbeth, while kicking out to Fish isn't exactly a lock. .There is more probability of it going through the hoop when it leaves his hands than it leaving the hands of Snow, behind the arc. And I'm sure opponents know that, and would hesitate less to gaurd Fish.

Not to mention, Fish TENDS to drain the 3pt shot when it's most needed. Not saying he's automatically clutch, but he does TEND to make those shots when the pressure is on most than not.

Another point is, JVG has said he will be sticking to his inside out offensive plan. BUT, will not limit it to the low post, but also a gaurd with penetration. And what good is having the inside option of it, if you're left out with only ONE outside option? That being JJ, who we all agree needs to spend a bit less time on the court, so he doesn't wear out come post season play.

So, I still believe, that for a PG, we should go after the likes of Brent, Fish or Hudson. Definitely not Snow.

 

Uh, McGrady can't shoot threes?

Yeah, I see you're talking about McGrady on the kick-out as well, but if we were to sign Snow everyone in our lineup would be excellent mid-range players. If a player is as smart as Snow is, I'm not seeing how having one non three-point shooter out of the 1, 2, and 3 postions is gonna hurt us astronomically.

 

I would much rather have Barry. Snow will be making $7.3M when he is 36! That is a lot of money for an old guy not that great.

Why not save the TE for Sheed sweepstake?

 

Heh...both you and haven bring up solid arguments about our PG shooting the 3.

Both have merit.

I guess it all depends on how we run our offense. McGrady will also get open 3s to shoot. And he's a good 3pt shooter even when he doesn't have a guy like Yao to draw in the double. I feel that Snow's 3pt shooting % will improve with Yao as well.

It also depends on what other good things (mid-range shot, low TO, and decision making) that Snow will bring to our team that off-sets his average 3pt shooting. This doesn't mean that Snow can't improve his 3 either. He can. This is probably the first time that Snow has played with a center that demanded the double.

I can picture in my mind that Snow would HAVE to improve his 3pt shooting if Yao was to send out passes to him once in a while. Most of the time I see the two-man game between McGrady and Yao. Any open shots that other players get, they will have to knock down! No excuses for those guys. They are wide open! Snow better practice. It wont get any better than "wide open 3s!"

 

and he still averaged 10 points

 

You have to TAKE some 3s to MAKE some 3s. 18 attempts barely counts. He doesn't take them because he knows he doesn't have the range.

 

That was my point. But he also needs to practice this "openness" he will be enjoying in Houston (if we get him).

I'm sure he can reach 38% 3pt if he shot 500 shots a day. Ow...my arms hurt...