Fair enough. I'll just look at his years as a Rocket, prior to this season. Amongst players over those 4 seasons who played at least 4000 minutes (so, we're talking about significant rotation players), he ranked 177th out of 256 players by points/shot (30th percentile). He ranked 207th out of 256 players by TS% (19th percentile). Amongst all players who played at least 500 minutes in those 4 seasons, he ranked 305th out of 442 players in TS% (30th percentile). It's fair to say that as a Rocket he generally has not been an efficient player. Even in Orlando, other than his really good 02/03 season, he was average or a little below average efficiency-wise.
DD, there's a saying that goes "if you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten". The rockets need to make a change.
Thank you for bringing sanity into the efficiency discussion and verifying what many of us have seen with our own eyes. Just because a guy shoots a lot, does not make him efficient, or the team for that manner. Durv, how has the Rockets' offensive efficiency been with Tmac running the show, versus how it was this year without him? Was the team more or less efficient? That might help determine the direction that Morey might be looking for in a trade for his contract. DD
My whole thing is for them 2 do what's best for the team. If your going to get rid of one injury prone player why not get rid of the other injury prone player so you wont have to worry about ook when is this guy going to get injured again. If you can get something great out of both of them why not do it?? And for the fun of it on Sweet Lou's list McGrady was #20 i believe Yao was 21. CM was like 112 or something. Im not sure don't bash me . So can you explain how is Maggette per better
Per is not a very accurate assesment of efficiency.......it is a made up stat. I look at things like FG% and points per shot, as to how efficient the player is at scoring the ball. Also, how many shot attempts does he take? I find it hilarious that Maggette gets labled a ball hog at 11 shot attempts a game but Tmac is not at 18.4 shot attempts a game. If Maggette shot as much as Tmac and their PPS stayed the same, it would be fairly clear that Corey is not a slouch. DD
Its funny DD how the San Antonio Spurs were hot after Maggette last offseason and those guys aren't a bunch dummies over there.
I don't know, I trust your analysis as usually you come up with good ones - but I am surprised because when i look at his points per shot throughout his career, even his worst ones, they are over 1.1. If he is so inefficient, why does he draw so much pressure from defenses?
What are you trying to say?? Because the Spurs were after him he is an automatic target?? Just because the Spurs were after him he good?
Are you kidding? What should I apologize for? How old are you anyway? SHEESH ! They know their stuff and how well he would fit into their system....incidently it is a system that we run in Houston too, or one very familiar. The problem is with perception, people have a bad perception of Maggette, but if you look at his skillset he actually fits right in....and you have to think that with our team, he would fall in line, heck Battier was his mentor at Duke... DD
oh ok but just to let you know the Spurs were after Vince Carter. That would have netted them with 4 max players. They would have been the New York Knicks of the West. What does that say about them now?
Just look at join date, most of the Tmac supporters are probably fairly young..but that is just a guess on my part..... DD
I'll quote one of my posts from April below, which might give a graphical answer to your question: IMO, the Rockets best extended stretch of offense actually came in the 04/05 season. They had McGrady who, IMO, was a top-10 player that year. Yao was very efficient. They had solid, veteran offensive players in Sura, Barry, and Wesley at the guard positions. This past season our role players have been more talented than ever, and they were quite effective without McGrady. But I definitely wouldn't conclude that we'd be worse off without a healthy McGrady. I understand your point about he and Artest not gelling on the court, but I still say think McGrady brings certain skills to the table that were sorely missed in the playoffs. I like Brooks, but McGrady is at another level as a playmaker when he's right. Maybe T-Mac+contract year is the right addition for us next season.
So you're saying that the Spurs would've been able to acquire Vince Carter without giving up Duncan, Parker, or Ginobili?
TMac they know talent and players better than all us posters put together. Give me a break. Morey traded for Scola and took back some bad contracts that threw the rockets into the luxury tax, does that make him a bad talent scout.
If we could be sure he was healthy, I might be willing to agree, but his attitude has been poor, his health poor, and his effort poor. I don't think the organization is willing to roll the dice in a year in which Yao can opt out, I think they want to keep Yao happy, and the only way to do that is to win..... And you can't rely on players that have a history of injury and are just not reliable at this point.... Just my Op though. DD
Yes they would have but Tim Duncan was smart enough to let it be known that it would have been dumb for the Spurs to give up half their team just for one guy. I don't remember exactly who they were going to give up but it was basically a 5 for 1 trade. Something like that.
