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ESPN makes RACIST joke of Yao Ming

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by hikanoo49, Jun 7, 2003.

  1. dnaslam

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    you do know that the US isn't a country full of white representatives right? there are multiple races in the US olympics. there are asian americans who represent america in the olympics as well.
     
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    Run. On. Sentences.
     
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    Check the stats of the white athletes. Then, check the stats of the asian athletes. Then, check to see how the europeans did.
     
  4. dnaslam

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    why are you so passionate about hyping up white athletes in the first place? aren't you iranian? also do you know that some white athletes might be half asian for all i know? the history of the older interracial couples isn't recorded, and they could have mixed again and again and looked nothing like an asian person and many of them adopted white names to be allowed to marry white women and bla bla. so if you really want to talk trash, try to back it up with research on their family tree or something.

    do you know there is such a thing as a eurasian and they look white and they got white names too. so how am i supposed to know if they aren't mixed? if you really want me to look at the stats, show me the urls and show me a photo of every athlete and their entire family tree history and dig up all the unknown facts that were never recorded in the first place.
     
  5. rezdawg

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    Only because you were just as passionate to prove otherwise. The general stereotype is that asians arent as athletic as whites, correct? My stance in the discussion is that stereotypes are true. Thus, Im trying to prove that this stereotype is, for the most part, true.
     
  6. dnaslam

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    yeah, shawn bradley is just as athletic as yao ming. so based on those statistics 7'6 asians are more athletic and quicker than 7'6 white boys. i guess we should use stereotypes and believe them all right. i'm pretty sure darko milicic will be a good player because the white media says he's the next kevin garnett. we should all believe what white people say. bostjan nachbar is the next peja stojakovich.

    also the general stereotype on asians is that they can't play any sport except ping pong which isn't true. asians have top players in many other sports and some ranked at the top of these sports. but do i go using this and saying asians are better than everybody else? no, that's stupid and an ethnocentric comment to make.
     
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    The shawn bradley comparison makes no sense. It has nothing to do with anything we are talking about because there is no stereotype surrounding that situation.

    If you really want to get into a discussion about asian athletes, I would be more than happy to discuss it with you.

    Very good soccer players.
    3 NBA players.
    Horrible football players.
    A few good baseball players (Mostly at the position of pitcher, which requires more skill than athletic ability).
    Very weak tennis players.
    Hockey? Nope.
    Volleyball? sorry.
    Bowling? Nah.
    Race car driving? Non existent.
    Lacrosse? No.
    Weightlifting...There are some asians that are amazing in this area (Again, this has more to do with strength than actual athletic ability)
    Track and Field...Asians are almost always towards the bottom in these categories in comparison to other countries. I do believe that they won 1 gold medal in this area and it was in womens walking (Im actually being serious).
    Ping pong, as you mentioned, is a very strong sport for asians, as well as raquetball.
     
  8. DavidS

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    rezdawg, don't forget that access, cultural interest, social status here in the USA, and opportunity also affects those numbers.

    That's why Hockey doesn't have a lot of Black athletes.

    Not because they can't do that sport and excel, but because the social class that Hockey usually revolves around; white middle/upper class northern states/suburbs.
     
  9. dnaslam

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    asians weak tennis players??-http://www.asiansportsnet.com/tennis/

    read that dumbass.

    and in hockey, one of the best players paul kariya is half japanese.
    Paul Kariya 5'10" 182 Anaheim Mighty Ducks Left Wing Japanese (1/2) (100% japanese father, white mother)Click Here
    Steve Kariya 5'8" 170 New Jersey Devils Left Wing Japanese (1/2) Click Here
    Richard Park 5'11" 190 Minnesota Wild Center Korean Click Here
    Jamie Storr 6'2" 198 Los Angeles Kings Goalie Japanese (1/2) Click Here
    David Tanabe 6'1" 195 Carolina Hurricanes Defense Japanese (1/2)

    and some of the most talented golfers in both women's and men's golf are asians.
     
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    True, but most asian countries have professional leagues that inlvolve the same sports, in their respective countries.

    For instance, there are men's and women's hockey leagues in China. They have access to these sports. The same goes for all the sports I mentioned, even race car driving.
     
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    Are the China hockey leagues the same level as the Canadian league?

    That's one issue.

    The other issue is access here in the USA.

    Being able to play in China is the not the same thing as a lot of them being able to play here in the USA/Canada.

    Again, it might never happen. Who knows? Just like the idea of a lot of black athletes in hockey.

    As far as genetic ability, we'll that's another issue (I think that's where you trying to go...). ;)
     
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    What I find funny is that all these conservatives who wanted to hang Shaq for making the comment, because of the EVIL double standard, are now defending ESPN. The comment is offensive, not racist, IMO.

    Another thing, sterotypes are not always born in truths. One of the reasons that there are so many negative stereotypes of blacks in this country, is that they were used to justify the mistreatment of Blacks. When people began to question slavery, pro slavery people would say things like, these people are hethens, or sub human, or whatever to justify taking there rights as human beings from them.
     
  13. dnaslam

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    so far, i've already proven that there are inaccurate assumptions from your stereotypes and you still insist that you're speaking the truth. please. most of the bs you just said, was stereotypes that are clearly false. and i don't know if they actually have professional leagues in those sports. and plus i read somewhere that the US nascar racing tournament was not open to asian cars or whatever. so at least get your facts straight.

    you're saying that you're riling me up, but the person who apparently wants to prove me wrong is you. i didn't even try hard to debate your points, i just cut and paste facts from a book.
     
  14. rezdawg

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    If there is an area you shouldnt argue with me about, its tennis.

    First off, that link has 3 asians on it. Wow, thats freakin amazing!!

    Secondly, other than Chang, the other 2 have not accomplished anything of significance in the world of tennis.

    In his career, Paradorn Srichaphan (Thailand) has won 3 titles, none of which were major events. A career record of 98-79. Not good when considering that almost all of the victories were in "minor" tournaments.

    Hyung-Taik Lee (Korea) is even worse. In 8 years of being a professional, he has barely earned $700,000 in prize money. That is not good.

    So, out of all the asians in the world, you came up with 3 names. Man, Im a dumbass.
     
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    No, they do have professional leagues. Look it up.
     
  16. rezdawg

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    exactly.
     
  17. rezdawg

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    shhh..;)
     
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    true true. and they call me a hypocrite. :D

    similar subhuman remarks were also made about other minorities and seriously even if you came from a civilized culture, people still viewed such people as inferior.

    gee, wonder why espn and other media outlets wouldn't print the article on asian discrimination until they put the white double standard in there? why is it that once that was put in there? they jumped to print it and instead of talking about the actual case offensive remarks. they chose to talk about the white discrimination part. it's just ridiculous.
     
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    double post.
     

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