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[ESPN] Lol changing their tune.

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  1. RowdyRedRaider

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    Wilbon's response to "who is playing better, Houston or LA?" on NBA on ABC:
    "I can't believe i'm saying this, but houston..."

    he basically owned up to not picking us before and explained why we're doing this...
     
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    So, I guess you're backing off on your challenge?

    I don't consider myself a sexist, though I'm a definite WNBA hater and have been since day one. I took offense to the "We got next" campaign as a joke because where I played they would get a 7-0 skunk and be off the court in 5 minutes.

    I'm all for women's sports when they fulfill the objective of entertainment, which is why we watch sports. But, I don't think we should prop-up women's sports as a novelty. To me that should be more offensive to a woman that the only reason that the WNBA exists is that it's novel to watch women play a sport. They certainly don't achieve a level of athletic excellence expected in professional sports.

    I don't think women's sports should be cancelled to support men's sports that don't fulfill the entertainment objective. I think that after high school, though, the market system needs to decide which adult sports are viable as entertainment. Some of those will be women's sports and some men's.

    P.S. I prefer women's tennis to men's because the style is more entertaining to me, since men's has become so much serve dominated.

     
  3. WhoMikeJames

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    I can't stand ESPN analysts. They are robots.
     
  4. zforrest

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    Seriously, don't listen to analysts. Just pity them. They're being paid little to make some noise about sports they don't actually analyze and to pretend that audiences care about what they have to say.
     
  5. levintblack

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    Or I decided to use it because the other words are blocked. And I've never seen Oprah but once in 3rd grade. I've just heard about the saying. Now how did you know it came from Oprah?
     
  6. levintblack

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    Sports where people without a blood sucking thing inbetween their legs play.
     
  7. pmac

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    its because he's a legit 6-8 while almost everyone else in the nba ads atleast an inch to their height. Notice when he stands by guys listed as 6-9 he looks about the same height.

    its weird that there are so many sexist people here though, man. I don't think women's sports compares to men's but I also don't think college or many international leagues compare either so I don't watch much of either. Basketball is such and atheletic/physical sport that women just can't match up with the men but it doesn't make it any less of a pro sport.
     
  8. pmac

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    you guys know she didn't make that term up right?

    She's like god to some people she says read a book or watch a movie and people do. Now she has people thinking she made up a term mothers use to teach their daughters were their privates are. :p
     
  9. levintblack

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    No I didn't. As I said I don't pay attention to Oprah. But thanks for the info.
     
  10. levintblack

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    That has always been my thought process. I don't pay attention to the WNBA but just because I don't doesn't mean it's bad basketball. I will say (and I know this from my internship) that not a single WNBA team has turned a profit even for just one year. I don't think the WNBA should exist because it doesn't make financial sense because it doesn't have enough fans. I think its great that these women have an opportunity to play pro, I just know the days are numbered because eventually NBA teams won't be willing to foot the bill.
     
  11. pmac

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    yeah, i don't hold anything against them I just don't understand watching any inferior sports. Why should I watch these kids play in college when I'm getting the best of the best in the nba, same with womens basketball.

    On a side note I think their should be some financial compensation for college players. Their making so much money off of these guys, i feel sorry for the ones who play a big role on a good team and never end up making any money from bball, its sick.
     
  12. levintblack

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    I run them down in order.


    I love college basketball. I prefer that style of play to the pro's. It's (at least in Big Ten) much more physical and they play defense first. I watch a lot of both but if I had to choose I would choose college. It should be said I grew up in West Lafayette (Purdue) so I was surrounded by college sports. If I had grown up in Houston maybe a different story.

    I can't stand watching women's basketball. Part of it is because I can't stand seeing the way it is played in the paint. The bang just like the guys but so often they don't have the strength to get a good shot off after being hit (I'm talking about hit but not fouled). I do watch Purdue women when they are on (like today) but that like I said above is in my blood and they are one of the top programs. As I watched the game today I kept wanting to turn it off because so many shots from in the paint weren't getting anything but the side of the backboard. I also find women's basketball anticlimatic. You see someone get on a break away the adreline rises, the excitement grows, and then theres a lay-up made. WOW. It's a buzz kill to not see the throw down.

    And I used to say men's player's need to get compensation. The schools do make good money off of them (you'd should look up the actual numbers its a lot less than you think. Only 30 football teams and about 2/5 of men's basketball teams at D-1 turn a profit). However the kids do get paid. About 10,000 a year. They get a free education, everything from tuition, books, room and board if they want it and meal plans. I asked one of the guys who I know well on the Ball State football team and he said it amounts to about 15,000 a year all together and may very well be more.
     
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    I really like that female color commentator that called the Rockets/Nuggets game for ESPN. She sounded like she had actually watched the teams play before.
     
  14. levintblack

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    Let's put it put it this way for every bad female announcer there are 10 male ones who are only announcing because they used to play in the NBA.

    An example is Dee Brown. I wanted to shoot myself hearing him talk. Not because of what he said but because he sounded like he was on helium and that type of voice is distracting. The number one thing your voice can't be in broadcasting.
     
  15. pmac

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    somebody has to be getting major dough, maybe the networks? I know about scholarships but I was thinking more along the lines of additional performance incentives for playing well and being on a winning team because those are the only ones that get marketed anyways.

    I know about the defense/teamwork/competition arguments, trust me I hear it all the time. I just think most of these pluses are products of the college games problem.
    I think guys play harder on D because:
    They aren't good enough to make up for bad defense like similar bad offensive players in the pros,
    They can because refs in college don't call much of anything,
    Their coach would yank them no matter what the consequences

    I agree there is alot less work ethic/attitude garbage in college but I just can't stand the differences in atheleticism and skill.
     
  16. levintblack

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    Yes the networks are making millions upon millions. If you want to know the secret to how college sports make it look to the alumni. For instance at Ball State they make millions every year off of alumni donations all of that (unless specifically written it must go somehwere else) goes to funding sports.

    And you're intitled to your belief when it comes to which basketball is better. I just don't necessarily agree with it.
     
  17. pmac

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    its cool, I've come to terms that i'm the only real hardcore bball fan that prefers pros over college.

    Most people would wanna lench me for prefering Gerald Green to Adam Morrison.
     
  18. daernoth

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    Ive never found college basketball to be interesting at all, or american football for that matter. Which means that tuning in to ESPN radio is pretty much a waste of time. Its all they talk about.
     
  19. go2france

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    what if we win the final?
     
  20. Possum

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    I dont know what is worse, ESPN or womens sports, except pole dancing, I have to admit I have watched my fair share of it.
     

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