oh hell no, did he just diss dream? this high yellow b*stard who has to remind everyone in his blog postings that he had a black ancestor down the line (you're not black, so stop fronting) and teeth that are the result of chewing rocks had better back the F up, cause i will seek him out at a game if he ever shows up. i hate a$$hats like him ... i am tired of them lumping dream in with the likes of robinson and ewing. dream is the only HOF caliber player to lead a team of role players to a title. every other big man on his list of immortals had a star perimeter player. i need to go clear my mind because i'm mad right now.
I won't use Shaq being swept in the playoffs as a huge reason for Dream being better. The guy was incredibly young. That being said, there is absolutely no way in firey hell that Shaq is above Dream. Has Shaq ever won DPOY? A shot blocking title? He's never even been all defensive first team and he's an immortal? Just compare the talent at the 5 position when both players won their MVP's and tell me what stands out. Yao is Shaq's only competition and now even he has been overtaken him.
What are you reffering the word "yellow" to? I hope you don't meant that as a reference to asians as that is pretty offensive as your whole post.
Yetti, I'm only quoting you here to bring levity to my soul. Russell athletically was the only center Dream can be compared to defensively. He-of-11-rings always knew it, said it and waited for Hakeem to get one himself. Oh, the reason for the need for levity - I go beserk when I read Dream is not a top-tier center. It makes me crazy, but it's cool that's been adequately covered in this thread. Anyone need any high blood-pressure medicine? Back to the Yao articles. Too cool and too true. Big props to Yao. I wish he were in a position to enjoy the praise.
i couldn't even finish the article after the Immortals line b/c i had to physically keep myself from vomiting. first off all, an enormous insult to put hakeem out of the top with shaq in. second, possibly an even bigger insult to say hakeem is in the group with robinson and ewing. maybe i just imagined 2 of the largest asswhoopings ever applied to high caliber players in what hakeem did to ewing and robinson in the playoffs. as for the Immortals, it's not fair to stop the list at 3 with wilt/russell/kareem b/c that's just paying too much homage to the past and basically never allows anyone else up there. and i personally think shaq and hakeem are better than russell, who didn't even come close to their offensive dominance (shaq's defense, as lacking as the effort could be, was better than russell's offense), and can easily be argued with the other 2. however, since people are always going to put russell up there, you make the Immortals 5 deep and you sure as hell include hakeem. there are ways to argue for each of the top 5 and possible things to knock each of the top 5 from the top spot (kareem racked up mvp's but didn't win a ton until he had magic, russell had HoFers to do all the offense, wilt couldn't beat russell's teams, shaq never was a 4th quarter guy and needed a kobe to take care of that, hakeem is tied for the fewest titles and played on some mediocre teams). i still can't believe i have to read crap like this and it's weird to see it right after that "hakeem's legacy" thread and shows just how little so many appreciate him b/c he wasn't a big media guy. aside from all that, nice to see yao getting good articles like this.
Yellow is a term used to describe cowards as well. I think that's what he meant. I'm Asian as well, but I'm not offended.
Hakeem belongs in the same group as Russel, Shaq, Kareem, and Wilt as the greatest centers of all time. (Yes Shaq does belong in this group. He is one of the few players in history that changed the way the game was played). On the next tier you have David Robinson, Pat Ewing, Moses, and Goerge Mikan (he was voted the greatest basketball of the first half century in 1950 by AP), and the next tier has guys like Bill Walton (had too few great years to be on the previous tier), Parrish, Reed, Mourning, Dougherty, Lanier, Mutombo, Gilmore, Wes Unseld etc.
Not to start trouble, but the 4.5 years thing could be a typo. I have done it several times and spell/grammer check will not catch it.
I have a feeling that Dream won't get the recognition he deserves until people who haven't watched him play go back and review the stats book and the unique accomplishments he had that not even Wilt or Russell share with him. May be the problem is that Hakeem is not too far removed from game that he will only be appreciated when he's well into his 50s? Just a thought...
Sorry I didnt watch any old school era(50s- mid 80s) basketball before. But someone please tell me, can Wilt and Russell dominate in the modern day basketball era against the likes of Dream, Shaq even Kareem, Ewing, Robinson etc etc?
I've heard "high yellow" used by blacks to refer to other light skinned blacks who can almost pass as white as an insult that they are sell outs. I think hashmander was using it in that context since he mentioned the guy claims to have a black ancestor.
I think Wilt in his prime could still dominate the likes of Ewing and Robinson. he wasn't just big but was quick and had great court vision. Those skills would allow him to dominate. Russell might not but he wouldn't be dominated by any of those other centers. I think the Dream vs Wilt would be the most interesting because Dream's moves, would and did, give almost every center he faced fits.
