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ESPN Insider: Rookie Report "Yao" & "Nachbar", Rudy down on Nachbar?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Deuce, Mar 25, 2003.

  1. Thrilla

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    Kg stands for kilograms. 1 kilogram is 2.2 pounds for those who are not familiar with the metric system
     
  2. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    The good Doctor speaks. Now tell us why Boki doesn't get any playing time again.
     
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    the military uses the metric thing and standard(why i have no idea) but when you hear someone say a click, they are saying a kilometer.

    oh and for us that dont know 10 Km is a bout 6.2 miles.... and i think that 1 Kg is about 2.5 lbs.

    but i dont think t mo will be a rocket next year, and i still have high hopes with boki and i too would love to hear more about him and his national team... and yes i still belive in the griff man as well... basically if they are in a rockets uni i have high hopes for them.
     
  4. AGBee

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    I heard Rudy high on Boki's comedy. Boki stays around 3 more years because of haha funny level. And he likes donuts.
     
  5. StupidMoniker

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    I saw the same thing before the Warriors game. Rice was shooting about 90% from three. Cat was shooting about 80% from all over with a hand in his face. Nachbar was shooting ~40% from three.
     
  6. Visagial

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    I haven't seen anybody mention this, but Rudy talked about Boki during the Rudy T. show a few weeks ago and said a few not so positive things. The first was that despite what everyone thinks, Boki doesn't have a great shot, nothing close to Peja. The second was that Rudy really hopes he improves this summer playing in the European summer league.

    Overall, it didn't sound like he was very impressed with him. :(
     
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    Boki really hasn't got a chance to play at all this year. It is unfair to call someone a bust when he only played 77 minutes the ENTIRE season. I think that Boki will show us what he can do next year when he gets more playing time. Remember how bad Peja looked in his first year. Give Boki some time. He might just pan out and surprise you.

    And I don't think that Rudy is down on Boki. He was just sticking to his policy of bringing along rookies slowly. Expect Boki to get Rice's playing time next year (because Glenbo will be gone :D ).
     
  8. jo mama

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    didnt posey already "earn" his spot. the point is that if he is resigned than he will be expected to continue to start next year. like stu-dog said, they wont put boki in the starting lineup and rudy likes rice off the bench for the instant offense.
     
  9. Lil

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    being here in the uk, i can confirm that they do use the metric system. but since it is relatively a recent adoption (80s), most of the people still prefer the Imperial measurements (inches and pounds)... (imperial? imperialist? coincidence? i think not! :p )

    Our future Line-Up

    (Rice being traded next year)

    C: Yao/Cato
    PF: Taylor/Griffin
    SF: Posey/Morris
    SG: Mobley/Nachbar
    PG: Francis/Norris

    Nachbar fits quite nicely in there methinks. There is a possibility that if Posey opts for the big contract, the Rockets will replace him in the line-up with Hawkins. In that case, Nachbar will probably start or definitely get plenty of playing time.

    So if Posey is a poor man's Pippen, does that make Hawkins a even poorer man's Posey? :D

    We traded a PF logjam for a SF logjam (Though at the time Rice was injured). But what it gave us was an extremely talented squad with lots of flexibility. Some guys who can play D, some guys who can knock down the mid-range jumper, some guys who can penetrate, some guys who can shoot the three, some guys who can rebound, etc. which i think makes the rockets a much more difficult team to match up against. So many weapons...
     
  10. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Doc, thanks for the info! Good to know that the Rockets are not really down on Nachbar. Someone really should call Chad Ford out on that comment!
     
  11. JayZ750

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    Exactly! Do you take a chance at not signing a player like Posey when nobody knows if your pick who was suppossed to have panned out a little better already will be improved at all?


    Was it done for Griffin? Kind of, although he had the ability because of the Taylor injury to get some significant PT. Also, I think Griffin makes a poor argument - I've seen no improvement from him this year, and I'm sure you could find a lot of poeple on this board who argue that we should have traded him for Rashard and kept KT to be the 1-2 PF punch.


    While the story may be untrue, is the premise? How can the team not be somewhat dissapointed with Nachbar, especialyl when looking at him as an individual talent and not a vital part of the team - where he may not have helped anyway.

    Here is what Tomjanovich said about him after the draft.

    "This kid is really an exciting player," Tomjanovich said. "The scrimmage I watched over there, he had 10 dunks. We had maybe nine NBA teams watching. They were not going through the motions. He can shoot the ball from the outside, put it on the floor. He's a competitor. He's a very good fit for our team.

    "This young man has played a number of years (five seasons as a pro in Slovenia and Italy.) On a very good team in Italy, he was one of the go-to guys. He's really got a good jump on coming in and playing right away."


    Come in and play right away??? How about come in and barely play at all.

    TheRocketGuy.com, who everyone here pretty much hates, had this to say regardless:

    The Rockets wanted Ming and Nachbar and that's who they got. In so doing, they addressed their two primary needs of a center and small forward. While Nachbar is a solid pick, Qyntel Woods was available and I can't help but wonder why the Rockets didn't take Woods. The Blazers appreciate the oversight, though. It's being said that Houston went with Nachbar because he's ready to play now. Not so with Woods. It remains to be seen whether or not Ming will be ready to play in the NBA or if he will need a couple of years to adjust. At least he'll be there for preseason to get a head start.

    Apparently Nachbar was the one ready to play whereas Ming might have taken some more time to adjust.

    The Rocket Guy aside, Les/Rudy/etc. had to have expected more than they got, something they realized would not happen early on, and they've had this positive spin on it since. I'm sure it's hearfelt and sincere that they hope he can be "next year's draft pick", just as everyone here hopes that he comes out and plays better next year to, but in the end, he was this years pick, and he has dissapointed.
     
  12. AGBee

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    I figured that the pressure to make the playoffs was building, and trying to work too many new/young players (Eddie, Boki, Yao) in at once would have been difficult.
     
  13. Deuce

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    Despite the fact we have a bunch of SFs I am disappointed that Nachbar has not gotten into the rotation this year. All the hype leading up to his drafting said he was "NBA Ready". Even Rudy said this. I think the pre-season surgery took some wind out of Nachbar's sails and did set him back some but it shouldn't be to the point where he is useless. Many NBA Media types had him on their 1st Team/2nd Team Rookie teams projections. That is quite a fall! Everyone thought he was ready to go in the NBA. Just seems like such a drastic change of events!

    I think the problem is, is that Nachbar does not fit a niche for this team, yet. He is not a good enough jumpshooter to warrant him time on the floor when his defense is lacking (The worst part of his game). If he could put the ball in the basket more consistantly then perhaps he would have gotten more time. I don't know. Didn't he start the first game of the season when T-Mo and Rice were injured? That would have been a GOLDEN time for him to do something. But he didn't do anything and has been burried ever since.

    Griffin got time last year because of injuries. Yao got the starters position this year because Cato was out. Unless someone is injured it appears the Rookies don't get a break on this team!
     
  14. Nova

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    The Rox will have Nachbar for another two seasons to evaluate and maybe try to groom him into what the Rox need. Most likely he'll get more pt next season to give him some experience. Rice will not play much next season whether or not he's traded.. I'm half hoping he won't so we can get extra cap space later. TMo should be resigned. He's a perfect role player and I think he should even be starting at the 3. Posey... well... the jury's still out on him until the end of the season. If he continues to play well and improve his shot and play more consistently.. then I say resign him. However I think he is the most expendable Rocket on the team. If he continues to be streaky offensively AND defensively then the Rox need to let him go and go with TMo/Hawkins/Nachbar/Rice at the 3. Back to Nachbar... if his D is really as bad as it is, then he doesn't warrant a lot of playing time. The only way he would get a good portion of minutes is if his offensive skills were incredible; Peja or Wally like or better. And it seems pretty clear now that he isn't at that level. Since he hasn't gotten much pt this season it's hard to tell where he's at. I have a feeling though that Nachbar may not be a Rocket when his contract expires. He'll either be traded or let go.:(
     
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    I think the fact that the season started so well hurt Boki's chances of playing. He was hurt at the beginning and we were winning. We haven't gone under .500 all season and are playing for the last playoff spot. All these mean that the Rockets don't want to risk anything simply to bring along an unproven guy. In fact, if Cato wasn't out for his grandma's death, Yao probably wouldn't have had the opportunity to play much because we were winning without him.

    I believe if we'd been losing and out of the playoff picture, Nachbar would have had more PT.
     
  16. Sir Geving

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    I don't believe this source. You can't believe everything ESPN writes.
    Boki will be a good bench player for the rockets when Glen Rice puts his shoes on the shelf. He will be a part of the rockets future.
    And Nachbar got game, I have seen many Euroleauge matches with him running the show.
     
  17. rimbaud

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    I wasn't arguing logic, just precedence - that the Rockets have done something similar in the past, for better or worse...
     

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