If we trade for Glenn Robinson then I will know it is officially over for the Rockets. What da heck? I rather make a Run at Kevin Garnet (if dreams could come true) by sending Francis, Cato, Eddie or Taylor to Minny in exchange for KG. The Lakers will sweep the T-Wolves and after that heads will role in Minny. Getting KG may not be that inconceivable. Let me consult RealGm and see what they think.
Boo on Glenn Robinson, he's not a very good team player and he's definately not the PF we need. Posey is my 3 of the future. What the heck does "SAR" mean at PF? Did I miss something?
I agree.You took the words right out of my mouth. Its about time someone else figured it out other than me.
I ask How old is Robinson, how long has he been playing and how much is he paid? Does he fit into this description- Old,past it, expensive, two years NBA life left, if he does then its a stop gap solution and the Rockets would be making ANOTHER mistake!!
Sar= Shareef abdul rahim. Hes the ultimate tweener. Rudy will like him because of this. He gets outrebounded at the pf,and is to slow to play sf. Perfect fit for the rockets. He can be our new griffin and shandon anderson all wrapped into one player.
Absolutely no way on any of the Hawks guys, Robinson, Rahim or Terry. Glenn Robinson plays absolutely zero defense and is simply a guy that takes a LOT of shots. The goal this offseason should be to acquiring solid ROLE players around Francis and Yao that can do something besides score. Robinson plays zero defense, does not have a clue how to pass and throws up 18 shots a game. Robinson throws up more shots than either Francis or Mobley. A similar thing can be said about Rahim and Terry as well; its no wonder the Hawks are stuck in the lottery. If the Rockets are willing to deal Rice's expiring contracts for a lengthier one, then target someone the team needs ie a tough PF that can rebound and defend (ie Brian Grant or PJ Brown via sign and trade possibly) or a playmaker that can distribute the ball and orchestrate a fastbreak. Getting more players that need the ball is a recipe for disaster.
Glenn Robinson does have a goto move. Something we sorely need down the stretch. I think he would fit in just fine and we could milk him down the stretch.
The only thing Big Dog does better than Posey is shoot. I'm perfectly content resigning JP to a reasonable $4-5 million/yr contract.
MManal has a good point there. One of the reasons a lot of people want to move Mobley is because he takes too many shots and by default takes shots AWAY from our two best offensive weapons, Yao and Francis. By putting Robinson on this team we would be getting another Mobley - i.e. someone that needs shots and would again take away shots from Francis and Yao. On the other hand, if we got someone like a Brand that scores without taking away shots i.e. scoring via offensive rebounds and put backs and at the same time plays solid defense, rebounding and shotblocking then we have someone that is a better match, especially offensively, for Yao and Francis. The only thing that is good about Robinson is he is a good outside shooter which is something this team DOES need with Yao in the middle. The catch here however is we could probably get someone A LOT cheaper than Robinson to shoot 3pters.
Finally someone nailed my sentiments exactly.. A lot of people want stars at every position. IMHO, we have two superstars that we need to build around w/ role players.. Not more guys that are going to demand shots...
I agree, sort of. I still think this team needs one more "all star" type player added to the roster. I think this team needs Yao, Francis, (one more player) + "role players" to compete for a championship. And yes, I am targeting Elton Brand. What he brings to the table would be a absolute perfect fit for the Rockets. And while it will be expensive, I think he can be had by the Clippers since they will not pay for him and will be under the gun to get something for him before he walks after next season. The Clippers either move him this off season or he is gone (just like Kandi will be this summer).
Deuce, Theres no question that Brand would be the ideal fit with Yao and Francis. Problem is, I feel the Clipps are going to make it really tough for him to leave LA. I will be stunned and surprised if they end up dealing him in a sign and trade this summer. My guess is that they will play the cat and mouse game with him, threatening to match any offer from other teams, and he will either take a long extension from them or just sign the one yr like Kandi did to move next yr. However, if the Rockets can somehow pull off this coup, then all they would need to do is sign solid vets into the backcourt that can complement Francis's game; steady guards like Kenny Anderson, Kevin Ollie, Jon Barry etc that will allow Francis to take on more of a scoring role.
One other point.... This could help determine how much leverage the Clipps hold on Brand. If they sign Brand to a 1 yr like they did Kandi, can they sign and trade him next summer if he agrees to it? For instance, if next summer the cap space has dried up, could Brand approach the Clipps to do a sign and trade for him assuming he just takes the one year? If the Clipps are barred from signing and trading a player who has taken a 1 yr tender, then that would really up the odds for the Rockets.
Robinson shot 43% and 34% (3) for the Hawks as their 3rd option. Posey shot 44% and 33% (3) for us as our 4th option. Not a huge difference. I would rather not do that trade and re-sign Posey for just under 5 mil a year. I would be glad to take Theo Ratliff off their hands for Rice. I like Odom even less than the Big Dog. The Big Dog at least can do major damage with his shooting to somewhat make up for his average quickness. Odom can't shoot near as well and like the Big Dog isn't as a good defender of moble swingmen. But again I would be very intriguied with Ratliff for about thr same costs. Ratliff is a great shotblocker, good rebounder and has adequate offensive skills even if he doesn't need the ball much. You put Ratliff and Posey as forwards and immediately we have a lot of wing length and speed. You can see with the Suns (and the Sonics of a like a decade ago) with recovery speed and length in the 3 & 4 you can anchor a really strong zone d. Given Yao isn't real quick (though he is not bad at all to have in the middle) and Francis isn't adapt on defense--having Posey and Ratliff in the middle could really help us present a formidable defense. I would even consider the Big Dog and Ratliff for Rice, Cato and Boki--TRADE ACCEPTED. But I would still re-sign Posey as the 6th man and not hesitate to play him over the Big Dog in crunch time.
We don't have Superstars - Yao and Francis are not Superstars. I just had to clarify that because I want to protect the sanctity of the words "SuperStar" and "Great" which unfortunate are thrown around these days indiscriminately. You earn those names not by All Star Sellections and hype by my inputs in relation to results. And that is the unabridged truth.
I would love to see Robinson on this team, but I'd prefer to hold onto Rice and see if we can't get something better for his expiring contract.
