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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by greatpacha1, Feb 18, 2011.

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  1. rock4ever

    rock4ever Member

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    You sound like you work for the Houston chronicle :rolleyes:

    Ariza is a actually a good all around player. You forget the organization ASKED him to take on a scoring role which was the wrong thing for both parties. While not a great creator, he's still an excellent spot up shooter and perfect 3rd option. Since he's gone, Chase Budinger has been chunking up bricks all season and outside of Battier we have nobody to defend the small forward position. Trading Ariza has only created more problems that we didn't have last years. Which team are you watching?
     
  2. Aruba77

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    I'm watching a team that is more than a SF away from making the playoffs.

    don't like using the rolleyes icon, but feel it's appropriate given how sure you are in your ignorance :rolleyes:
     
  3. UTAllTheWay

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    And if the Rockets don't make that trade, then they have nobody to defend the 2-guard spot...
     
  4. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    JT was a pretty good defender. Remember how he suffocated Kobe?
     
  5. larsv8

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    No he isnt. He is an okay defender who gambles too much and a terrible offensive one.

    Um, no he isn't. He is a terrible shooter. Much less, he doesnt seem to get it and keeps chuking up ten shots a game. Ariza is an ideal 6th option....on a team of 5.

    We have Battier and we have Jeffries. We are more loaded defensively at the SF position than any other position.

    Trading Ariza didnt create any problems, it solved the problem of "starting Trevor Ariza on our team."
     
  6. thetatomatis

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    More than one SF away from contending but with one extra SG even less close than last year? :rolleyes: [​IMG] ?
     
  7. ThaShark316_28

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    What if you some how got the 8th spot but you did that with young players acquired via trade?
     
  8. thetatomatis

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    I find it funny how you can bash a 6ft 8 SF who played on a championship team, can play defense on SGs at times, starts on a winning team, started on a 500 team, plays 36 minutes a night, adds defense and offense, team is currently 8 games above 500.

    In favor of a backup 6ft5 undersized SG, doesnt see the court, never scores more than single digits most nights, plays marginal defense on one of the worst defensive teams, below 500 team, never started for a Championship team, losing team he started for was worst ever, backup to Martin who plays zero defense, yet sees no time on the court for a below 500 team..

    When scanning these results and not how good or bad Ariza was here as a starter? Pretty tough to say that was a good trade off. Seeing as Its not about if Ariza belonged here or not or we liked him on our team but if we got good trade value which we didnt. Which is the whole point and not if we hated Ariza or he was bad as a Rockets starter. Rather if we got good trade value... Petty emotions aside? I think Ariza was waisted in this useless trade when you could be talking about a trade involving Ariza right now without waisting too many others you dont want to get rid of. Now he is waisted for Lee and no future in sight for Lee here unless Martin is traded.
     
  9. rock4ever

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    Your missing the point. The fact is trading Ariza was a terrible trade. If you add MORE holes to a team already with holes on it then its a BAD trade. Its not ignorance, its basketball logic.
     
  10. thetatomatis

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    Thats the reason I can keep posting this.[​IMG]

    The conversation is so one sided I dont even know why I need to comment on it seriously...
     
  11. thetatomatis

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    I cant take unserious conversations seriously. Your saying Ariza is worse than Lee? Interesting.... This because you have insider saber metric info to back you up about his plus minus measurable for X amount of minutes that lead you to believe X player Ariza is worse than Y player Lee on a scale using Moreys algorithms of contracts for performance? Plus minus the differential in starting minutes and minutes altogether Ariza had over Lee in total that makes Lee equal to the some of all of Arizas starter minutes which account for the winning percentages of Rockets games Lee is involved in to consequently offset all of Arizas starter minutes this year and last year altogether using your methods verbatim?

    Is that how you BSed your way into Lee over Ariza? I see... It is a sound theory when viewing within this spectrum of Rocketnomics using Moreys varariable charts to judge players now.
     
  12. thetatomatis

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    In that case your world where Lee for Ariza was a good trade is true. ;)
     
  13. rock4ever

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    You obviously haven't watched Ariza play much. At the least he's a solid defender who will get you some steals. Terrible shooter? That's a silly exaggeration. When Ariza had time to set his feet he's a good 3pt shooter. If you've ever watched a Rockets game, you'd seen how well he meshed with Martin & Brooks at the tail end of last season. Why? Because he went back to a 3rd option.

    Lol. You sound delusional. How exactly did trading Ariza benefit us basketball wise? I don't think Jared Jeffrey has stepped up in his role as a key defender.
     
  14. thetatomatis

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    Morey land.



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    Entry costs? Take off all illusions of objectivity and turn on your sunshine and rainbows viewpoint. No trade is bad here. Role players are your new star players. Championship means out of first round. If you dont like it risk being weeded out by native drones.
     
  15. Hippieloser

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    Post less please.
     
  16. thetatomatis

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    I understand it doesnt gel with your view point. This has been quite a few days since I last posted. Quite a few days before that. Thank you. If you have a point make it rudely to me with valid views if you can to back it up or in a classy manner if you can to dispute it. Rather than rude and no point at all. :cool: Thank you. :)
     
  17. UTAllTheWay

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    Trevor Ariza is the 3rd option in New Orleans right now and he's not shooting the ball well at all.

    Hell, he's even got a superstar PG that can create for everyone and a consistent low-post presence in David West.
     
  18. Hippieloser

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    Rude? I said "please!" You had three freaking posts in a row on this page and 8 total (and counting). That's plenty to get your "classy" point across.
     
  19. thetatomatis

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    Its rude to ask a person to stop posting. Mostly because their views crush yours in some way possibly? Makes your view point not standout or have a valid rebuttal against. Classy or rude no response to the subject but to essentially tell someone to shut up essentially is not gonna stop them if they are on the right track of displaying their topic better than you could. Rather it mostly encourages them that their view point is pretty good if not maddening to those who oppose it. Show of weakness rather to be emotional to ask someone to stop. Sort of like crying uncle instead of rebutting their side of the equation. :)
     
  20. LongTimeFan

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    You posted the same picture twice just on this very page. Please, post less often if that's all you're going to contribute.
     
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