ESPN Insider - A long-shot possibility is Francis returning to Houston

jho, wesley, barry, da, badiane(i think i remember they were interested in drafting him), spanoulis and a 1st

for

Francis, Outlaw and 2 2nd's .....

Orlando gets expiring contracts in wesley and barry, da will come off the next season and jho the following season...they get 2 euro projects to go w/ Darko and then a probably a middle to late 1st rd pick....

ithink it's a good deal for them...

Houston gets Francis, I think he can thrive in this offensive...as long as we keep running, he won't have the pressure on him of being "the franchise" and I think he will do well...Outlaw is just alittle help inside, JVG type of guy, defender, rebounder and shot blocker....hey, from what i hear, Detroit might release Cato, might as well bring him back too.... lol

 

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I don't think you can trade away players you have not signed yet.

 

Remember what JVG said about 'no knuckleheads'? Who do you think was the model for that description?

SF plays hard, no doubt.

But sound judgement? Good hoops IQ? No way.

The last thinkg this teams needs on it is someone like Steve.

A big hint about how far SF's stock has fallen: Cuban is actually NOT making moves to overspend to add him to the Mavs' roster.

Kinda makes ya think.

 

I still don't see why the Rockets aren't talking to Denver about either Watson or Lenard for Derek Anderson, unless Denver doesn't want him. Watson would make a great backup PG behind Alston and has been deadly from behind the arc this season. Lenard's defense may be suspect but he's also a great marksman who would give us an extra perimeter threat when we need lots of offense.

 

Houston Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Derek Anderson
6-5 SG from Kentucky
10.8 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.6 apg in 29.1 minutes
David Wesley
6-1 SG from Baylor
11.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 35.5 minutes
Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
11.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.4 minutes
Incoming
Steve Francis
6-3 PG from Maryland
16.4 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 5.7 apg in 37.9 minutes
Change in team outlook: -16.5 ppg, -8.7 rpg, and -1.3 apg.


Orlando Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Steve Francis
6-3 PG from Maryland
16.4 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 5.7 apg in 37.9 minutes
Incoming
Derek Anderson
6-5 SG from Kentucky
10.8 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.6 apg in 29.1 minutes
David Wesley
6-1 SG from Baylor
11.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 35.5 minutes
Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
11.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: +16.5 ppg, +8.7 rpg, and +1.3 apg.



Successful Scenario
Fair ?

 

I don't agree. If you remember, the rockets did make the playoffs and almost beat the lakers, but they lost because of some small mistakes.

 

1) I doubt DA has much trade value now.
2) Watson has a long and big contract, and he is not better than Rafer or Sura.

 

ya, u can trade them....it would be worded as "the rights to Badiane and Spanoulis" ....

 

Yes I do remember but its was a different team than the one SF would be coming back to.

 

Lets see...

Stevie + Howard for Rafer, Swift, Barry and 2nd Round pick

Deal is done...

I'm sorry but if they can give us Dwight Howard I would tattoo Rockets all over my ASS LOL

Howard is a monster on the glass and is only 20.

 

I would like to have steve back as well, however, there is just no way this would work out. Can you imagine steve dribbling out the shot clock with Tmac and Yao waiting for the ball.

 

for $15 mill next season? for a 3rd scorer. I rather try to get Ray Allen for the same price. Not as bad as having Allen houston for $20 mill and not play/$14 mill for an injured penny. brightside is someone always has it worse (Knicks, and when the think of the brightside, there is none).

 

Ahhh, he has a new contract. That's the problem. The data I had showed he was making less than DA. Voshon Lenard, on the other hand, can be had for the TE...but they might ask for more than just DA.

 

Lloyd Christmas: What are the chances of a guy like you and a girl like me... ending up together?
Mary: Not good.
Lloyd: Not good like one in a hundred?
Mary: I'd say more like one in a million.
Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance?

 

First off I am a huge JVG fan, second I basically see Steve as a knucklehead. That being said, if Orlando would accept any combination of Swift, Anderson, Head, Pick and cash, I don't see how you could not take a serious look at it.

That contract is certainly an issue,and more importantly JVG and SF3 would both have to want to do it. Say what you want about the obvious problems, but Francis can shoot, he rebounds well for a guard, he can play team defense, and he does give it his all between the lines.

I think that the key is that Francis has been humbled by the last two years. He strikes me as ready to come to a new place, do as told, fit in and try to salvage his career. I think a JVG team offers the discipline he needs and the potential for a high level of success. And lastly I think Steve can recognize the situation.

 

steve was the only rocket who showed up for the series against the lakers. everyone praised jim jackson as being the glue of the team but his defense and jacking up missed shots was more of a problem than steve.

jim jackson had reputation for being a cancer and i think he proved it.

also for whatever reason jvg decided steve wasn't the guy to close out games even though he shot so many last play clutch threes under rudy.

 

Well, at least he knows Van Gundy's system. And he can play defense. I'd be happy if we got Stevie back.

 

Let's stop this non-sense, Steve would be detrimental to this team's chemistry and is not what we need not because he's a bad player, but because he's a bad fit.

There's no way in hell a Francis trade could've even crossed the minds of CD or JVG, it just won't work unless you get rid of McGrady.

In the current system, I will take Rafer's skills (passing, low TO) over Francis', simply because Rafer is a better fit and Francis just wouldn't work at all.

Let's be rational here, that writer just threw baseless crap out there and he's hoping to get something cooking; a lot of writers do that, heck, the whole "Peja-for-Artest" scenario was concucted by Stephen A. Smith and then it took on a life of its own and became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

If Wink is back, Yao will be torn between him and Tmac. It's brokeback moutain meets desperate house wife. Yeah, let's do it.

 

Actually, Nash and Amare are max players. Amare's extension won't kick in until next year, but that will give them three max players.

Parker and Manu aren't max players, true; San Antonio did a good job managing their expectations and convincing them to stay with the organization that can win championships for years.

But JVG won't want Stevie back. Any interest we would have in Wink would only be to fetch a player we really want.