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[ESPN] Houston offering young talent + picks for Nene

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LongTimeFan, Feb 17, 2011.

  1. Sanity2disChaos

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    BINGO!!
     
  2. greatpacha1

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    as long as we dont lose PPAT! and yea, he would have to sign an extension, no rentals.
     
  3. DCkid

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    What other cities and teams than the one's you mentioned are vastly more attractive than Houston, pray tell?

    Well, duh. But what about the fact that we could actually pay him? That's a pretty important factor. This isn't a guy who is overloaded with endorsement money.

    I mean if you can give some examples of highly attractive teams that could sign him outright as a free agent this off-season, then I'm all ears. I don't see teams jumping through hoops like last season just to make cap space for Nene.
     
  4. GreatOne1978

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    Nene has remained relatively healthy free the last couple of years. Sign me up!
     
  5. the_hustler

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    RT @tomhaberstroh: How strong is Nene? He earns an And-1 every nine shots he takes. League average is once every 35 shots. (via @Hoopdata)
     
  6. ROX_fan_CT

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    Trust me I'm sure DM knows this very important stat. Just like he knew how efficient and how often Martin gets to the line. The icing on the cake is now Nene is shooting about 76% which make him extremly valuable and efficient.

    By no means is Nene the savior that will make the Rox a championship team but he is a much need piece and upgrade from what we have.
     
  7. Disciple of RP

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    What city isn't? Not sure if you're saying Houston is far more attractive than most cities or if you think I'm saying Houston is a bad destination. Not the case for me. I was pretty clear in saying I don't think many players have Houston at the top of their list. Do you disagree? Are you saying players are clamoring to come to Houston?

    Are you saying the Rockets are the only team that will be willing to pay him? And if not, why ask me to list teams?



    (for the record: I'd like to have Nene for the right deal and with an extension)
     
  8. buffalobills!!!

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    Nene is solid but I don't it is worth it to trade for him. He will only make us slightly better and I would rather start rebuilding...
     
  9. rox4lyf

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    What I don't understand is why people say they don't want Nene because they rather rebuild. Why can't trading for Nene satisfy both objectives of upgrading the roster and rebuilding at the same time? Getting Nene would likely mean trading away older, veteran players like a Battier or Jeffries in order to match salaries. How is that not a rebuild type move? Rebuilding suggests building around SOMETHING. Obviously we have nobody on this roster worth building around as we have 2nd tier/role players. Hence, the obvious course of action in a rebuilding scenario would be to clear up roster clutter (ie "blowing up the roster"). Acquiring Nene would require giving up multiple players--a combination of veteran players and young attractive pieces in the form of draft picks or players with potential. Explain to me how acquiring ONE player and giving up 2-3 others is not a method of "blowing up the roster". The problem with the Rockets is roster clutter. Getting Nene would clear up redundant players while giving those buried on the bench, but coveted by Morey such as PPat and TWill more playing time. This is a rebuild type move, and in the best case scenario a reload type move that makes us better in the short run as well.
     
  10. Aruba77

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    I hear what you are saying, and agree to a certain extent, but the truth is that Nene will be 29 next season. I think he'll play well into his early thirties (just like Scola will), but we'd have to be contending in the next few years to get our money's worth out of Nene. I don't think he's too old to rebuild with, but he's certainly right around the cut-off point.

    I'd also point out that the rumors are saying we are offering young talent and picks for Nene, in addition to the older player for salary match puproses. That means less young assets to develop and rebuild with, also less young assests to use in trades to rebuild with.

    I agree with you that we should still persue Nene, but we should not overpay considering we've got to add some young star players in order to make the Nene aquisition all it could be.
     
  11. Disciple of RP

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    If those offered young assets aren't named Patrick, Terrence, or Courtney then we win (w/ extension).
     
  12. AXG

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    Nene for Brooks, Hill, and Jeffries' expiring? I wouldn't mind that trade.
     
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    Exactly. Everyone knows that if you play on a team that includes a player named Yao Ming, your endorsement deals and worldwide popularity goes through the roof. With worldwide here of course meaning China
     
  14. DCkid

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    I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying these cities are not exactly heaven on earth when compared to Houston (at least from an NBA players perspective): Philadelphia, Toronto, Indiana, Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, Atlanta, Charlotte, Washington, San Antonio, Dallas, New Orleans, Memphis, Oklahoma City, Portland, Denver, Utah, Minnesota, Phoenix, Sacramento. Players aren't clamoring to come to any of these cities.

    The Clippers and Nets play in "attractive cities," but are jokes of franchises.

    That leaves Chicago, Golden State, Boston, Miami, Lakers, New York. I think many of these teams would need to jump through hoops to free up cap space to sign Nene as a free agent. I listed the Warriors just because I like the Bay Area, but I don't think I've ever heard of a free agent dying to go to that team.

    How are you missing this? I clearly said COULD pay him, not willing to pay him. Could. Like having the ability based on the NBA's salary cap rules. The Rockets would have his Bird Rights, and thus would have the ability to pay him. "Attractive teams" would have to jump through hoops just to free up enough cap space. Yes, a few other teams might have some cap space, but I believe most are franchises that have been bottom feeders for many many years. I don't see any reason why he would consider those teams any more attractive than Houston.

    I'm not saying it's a foregone conclusion he would re-sign if we traded for him. However, looking at a lot of other teams situations, I'd say there's a good chance he would view the Rockets as his best option...mainly because his options are limited. Not every good player in the NBA can go to the Knicks, Heat, Celtics, or Lakers.
     
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  15. Disciple of RP

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    Fair enough. I can see that.
     
  16. Texas Stoke

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    Who in the HELL would name their son NeNe? Is NeNe related to Sha-NeNe? If so that would be kind of cool to see her at the Rockets games. Then she would be sitting on the sideline saying "Rockets Rock my World, heeeeyyy!"
     
  17. Sooner423

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    They didn't. His name at birth was Maybyner Hilario.
     
  18. Disciple of RP

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    He actually changed his name to Nene (Brazilian Portuguese for baby), he was born Maybyner.


    At any rate, it's just a name and the guy isn't from "around here" so I think you're being a bit ridiculous.
     
  19. wgray

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    i don't give a damn what his name if he can help us cool
     
  20. rock4ever

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    Lol. The rebuilding process has already began, how much more rebuilding can we drastically do. There aren't and Kevin durants out there bro
     

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