1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

ESPN Hating on Yao Again

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by PigMiller, Apr 15, 2009.

Tags:
  1. PigMiller

    PigMiller Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2008
    Messages:
    874
    Likes Received:
    301
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090415

    14. Yao Ming
    The good news? He stayed healthy. The bad news? You're getting a 20-10 and two blocks from him and that's it. He is what he is.


    No matter what he does, how much he produces, or how much he changes the game with just his presence on the court...it will never be enough for the national media.
     
    1 person likes this.
  2. ccada

    ccada Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    589
    Likes Received:
    7
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090415

    20. Ron Artest
    My dream scenario for the '09 Finals if Boston can't win: Houston shocking Cleveland in the Finals, followed by rioting at MIT, a tipsy Yao Ming and Artest giving David Stern a full-body celebratory hug. Vegas odds? 20-to-1. We're in play.

    Love it.
     
  3. vcchlw

    vcchlw Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2002
    Messages:
    6,824
    Likes Received:
    1,050
    LOL getting 20-10 is "bad news". Who would want to get "good news" then?
     
  4. jEXCLUSIVE

    jEXCLUSIVE Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    351
    Likes Received:
    24
    That is just ridiculous... How many players in the league can "just" give you 20-10. Not even worthy of getting upset over.
     
  5. bullardfan

    bullardfan なんでやねん

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    3,597
    Likes Received:
    101
    how long u been a rockets fan? the media doesnt like us. big freakin deal. i'd rather they talk us down and doubt us. so that it will taste that much better when we prove them wrong. i wish our opponents felt the same way. then maybe yao wouldnt be facing so many double and triple teams.
     
  6. LFE171

    LFE171 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2003
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    19
    ...what the hell are they talking about? Those are good numbers. 20-10 is badass considering you give plenty of rebounds to Scolandry, Hayes, Artest, and scoring is deferred to Artest, Von, and AB. Yao could average much much more, but the depth of the team is what takes from his stats.
     
  7. BiGGieStuFF

    BiGGieStuFF Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    5,389
    Likes Received:
    364
    Change the rules back and I'm pretty sure the big men these days will average more points. It's much easier to neutralize big men these days with the double coverage before they get the ball and the fact it's easier for guards to get to the basket and draw fouls since they let players get away with murder on big men down low and don't allow hands on perimeter players. Post games are going to be come less effective as time goes on and younger players will stop developing it as much. I love nba basketball but I don't like the new rules ever since they came into effect.
     
  8. napalm

    napalm Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2005
    Messages:
    2,348
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ehh, it's Bill Simmons. There's no point in taking him seriously when it comes to anything rockets really.
     
  9. GRENDEL

    GRENDEL Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2002
    Messages:
    17,187
    Likes Received:
    4,671
    If it were Dwight Howard they'd be gushing over how great he is........
     
  10. Vanilla Rice

    Vanilla Rice Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2008
    Messages:
    737
    Likes Received:
    15
    If Yao gives us 20, 10, and 2 every night of the playoffs, I'll be ecstatic.

    I'm just glad the bad news isn't that Rafer is still our PG.
     
  11. rhadamanthus

    rhadamanthus Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,304
    Likes Received:
    596
    God Bill Simmons is such a douche.
     
  12. Vanilla Rice

    Vanilla Rice Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2008
    Messages:
    737
    Likes Received:
    15
    That's a great point.
     
  13. pmac

    pmac Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    7,964
    Likes Received:
    2,545
    I think he's implying that Yao doesn't do much beyond that. For a frame of reference, Zach Randolph is averaging a legit 20/10, clearly Yao's impact is greater than his. I think he's trying to make the point that there are other big's who have a bigger impact than Yao despite his stats. I don't agree but the rockets haven't given people much reason to believe in them in recent years.
     
  14. Lovemachine2000

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2008
    Messages:
    1,468
    Likes Received:
    359
    The real point is that this pompous writer never watched the Rockets in action, otherwise he'd know how both our offense and defense revolve around Yao.
     
  15. BaiHua

    BaiHua Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2009
    Messages:
    888
    Likes Received:
    193
    He should has ranked Yao at No.450 right behind Elton Brand. Because Yao is what he is. :eek: Frankly speaking, if you has not jump out of first round of playoffs, you are available there to be disrespected by ass even you are 20-10 guy. At the very least, Yao got more respects than Joe Johnson who was just commented in one word “Sure”. :D

    Seriously, Ranking 450 players? get a life! :eek:
     
  16. lcc179

    lcc179 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2003
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    0
    From the same article, number 71...

    Hey, here's something crazy: Only five NBA players will average at least 10 rebounds this season, but 38 players shot 40 percent or better on 3-pointers.

    To recap: Teams launch nearly twice as many 3s and make a higher percentage. There are six times as many "elite" long-range shooters. And because of that and three other reasons -- faster style, more small ball, longer rebounds -- there's a drought of good rebounders because boards are distributed in a more random way.
     
  17. BigBenito

    BigBenito Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2002
    Messages:
    7,355
    Likes Received:
    175
    The nerve of this guy ranking him 14th MVP this year and Artest 20th while saying a dream scenario would be for Houston to win a championship GRRRRR :rolleyes:

    Seriously people...
     
  18. ibm

    ibm Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2007
    Messages:
    8,600
    Likes Received:
    60
    the good news? his name is lebron james, the king of bball.

    the bad news? you get 28pts, 7rebs and 5asts from him and that's it. oh, a couple of crab-dribble, too.
     
  19. Artesticles

    Artesticles Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,371
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dude, it's Bill Simmons. He compares Yao to Muresan because of his lack of quickness.
     
  20. Cannonball

    Cannonball Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2006
    Messages:
    21,652
    Likes Received:
    1,910
    I can kind of see where he's going just because Yao has averaged over 20 ppg the last 3 years and now he isn't. So it seems like there's a decline. But his comments sound like they're from someone who only looks at stats and doesn't watch actual games. And knowing how much of a Celtics fanboy Simmons is, he probably only saw Yao play twice this year. 3 times if you count the all star game.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now