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[ESPN] Guangdong Tigers to block Yi from playing for Bucks

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by codell, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. Icehouse

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    True, but in most cases a player doesn't have the option to make the same amount of money somewhere else. I bet that rate wouldn't be as high if you only considered players who could still get a lot of $$ doing something else (i.e. players drafted in multiple sports...probably the best example).
     
  2. DrNuegebauer

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    Yeah - well said.

    If the guy doesn't want to play NBA, then he doesn't have to. If he wants to play NBA, then he plays by the rules - and if he can't get out of his contract with his current club, then it looks like he's stuck.

    If he's lucky, then the Bucks might trade his rights to a 'bigger market' --> but then again, they might just leave him playing in China the rest of his life.

    The main loser in all this is Yi - he's a guy who is going to need a few seasons in the NBA (he's not Ming...) to adjust, and in a few years it may well be 'dream over' for him.
     
  3. tinman

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    Yi can start eating Nathan's Hot Dogs to compete with Kobayashi.
     
  4. Icehouse

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    Will it really hurt his stock? If he enters the draft next year and one of his chosen teams has a draft pick they will take him. Professional athletics has shown us that no matter what you do (beat your wife, make it rain, go on trial for murder, diss an owner, choke your coach, start a brawl with fans, diss the entire organization, etc), as long as you can help a team win someone will take a shot (see Ray Lewis, Kobe, Artest, TO, etc). I doubt Yi is that concerned about taking a hit in his slated rookie contract, especially if he has endoresment $$$ coming in...
     
  5. SamFisher

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    LOL - what is Yi's salary with the Guangdong Tigers? It's not even close to what an NBA rookie deal would be, nor will it be for the next 50 years.
     
  6. Icehouse

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    Vasquez made enough to not come over and so did Sabonis. Isn't Yi a bigger star at this stage than them? I have no idea what his team salary is. But doesn't he already have endorsement deals? From what I hear he is like a star in China.

    Other international players have million dollar deals so I don't see why he couldn't get one eventually.

    Either way, no precedent is being set. I believe another poster has listed enough examples of previous players using their leverage to get in the situation that they felt was best for them. I know there aren't many examples, but are there really that many times where a player has the leverage to still get paid major dollars doing something else (another sport or playing somewhere else).

    Go YI!!!! Fight the power. I bet fans were screaming the same thing when Curt Flood wanted to be a free agent....
     
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  7. Jonhty

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    Um, he may not make as much money in China but I'm sure his net income including all the endorsement deals is closer to what he'll make with the bucks AFTER tax than you think! I don't know the exact figure tho. Someone tigers fan can fill me in.
     
  8. tsunami

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    What you said is simply bullcrap. :p
     
  9. SamFisher

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    No they made less.

    hmmm..no you are likewise dead wrong and clearly do not understand markets.
     
  10. meh

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    I think this isn't the main point with Yi. For someone as marketable as Yi, the NBA salary is chump change compared to the advertising income. And that money does correlate to which team he actually plays on. Now, I don't know exactly how much of a difference it makes, but apparently his people think it matters a lot.

    So while it's correct to say that Yi cannot make nearly the amount of money playing elsewhere than in the NBA, it's also equally correct to say that Yi cannot make nearly the amount of money playing for the Bucks than, say, in California or New York.

    Now, is the difference worth sitting out for a year and roll the dice next draft? That is the big question. Has Nike and other companies already said they won't pay as much if he plays for the Bucks? If so, then I can see where his agent's coming from. Although quite frankly, I still hope that he himself would come out and say it.
     
  11. rockets fan

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    100% agree.

    Do you any other whiners out there realize that the NBA is a business, Yi has every right to negotiate especially since he knew he was a sure lotter pic, b/c once he signs he's losses any control over his life for the next 4 or so years. NBA franchises makes millions; the Bucks will make millions upon millions of Yi. Yi is just trying to maximize his career. Since when the **** did individual everyday Americans start giving a **** about protecting a multi million dollar company, the Milwaukee Bucks, over an individual trying to make his money. Think about it this way, after you graduate with an MBA, would you go to any company, or would you do whatever you can to get into the perfect situation? If you yall didn't know that already and still feel the way you feel, yall probably bringing world politics into basketball.
     
  12. hooroo

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    http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/0718nbanotes0718.html
    That last part is BS, in Milwaukee he'd be splitting 48 mins with CharlieV.
     
  13. hooroo

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    The NBA is run by NBA club owners not by some foreign ball club.
     
  14. arno_ed

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    For all the people saying that it is his choise, that if he doesn't want to play in the nba he doesn't have to: Than he shouldn't have applied for the draft. When he said he wanted to be in the draft, he agreed with the rules in the NBA. so he should life by them. He applied for the draft, which means any team can pick you.
     
  15. hooroo

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    Umm.. he did agree to the rule. And the rule states that if you don't like the team that drafted you, then you can sit out a year and re-enter the draft or cry/threaten for a trade. He's not doing anything that hasn't been done before.
     
  17. arno_ed

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    I'm not sure about that Rule, so if you do not play basketbal for a year than you can sign with whoever you want? Is that true? but if he plays for another club in china or europe that rule does not apply, since than his draft rights are kept by the bucks. Is this correct? I really do not know this part.

    If this is true, than it is his right to sit this year out.

    I do not think the argument it ahs been done before is very good. In general i think it is a low and bad move by him. If anybody else did this I would still disagree with it. Like i have said in different threads, i think that with this kind of actions players destroy the entire idea of the draft. Next thing is that a number one draft player doesn't want to play for a bad team. I really do not like it.

    My opinion of this situation will not change, I am really starting to hope he will fail (just as i would with anybody else who acts this way in this situation).
     
  18. hooroo

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    He won't be able to to play anywhere CBA included if he wants to re-enter the NBA draft.

    Which past lottery picks have sat out a year to re-enter the draft?
     
  19. A_3PO

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    They play the highest level of professional basketball outside of the NBA. Or he could stay in China.
     
  20. arno_ed

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    So sitting out one year means you can re-enter the draft?
    and if he plays basketbal somewere else the bucks keep his rights? correct?
     

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