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[ESPN] Guangdong Tigers to block Yi from playing for Bucks

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by codell, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. KaiSeR SoZe

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    The Bucks need to stick to their guns! Either Yi plays for them or he doesn't play at all...

    I do not want this to be a precedence. also, does Yi not have any influence over his handlers? if he could care less about which team he plays for then he needs to fire his people.

    grows some balls
     
  2. codell

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    I understand your system. Whats to prevent all the good players from saying no to all the lottery teams and instead, always signing with major market teams and perennial contenders?
     
  3. yuantian

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    maybe not a true monopoly. but close. it's like microsoft and mac. most people buy microsoft cause not much other choices and everyone uses pc. true, there are tons of leagues around the world. but do you really think foreign players want to come to US to play IF their own league is at the same or similiar skill level and gives similar pay? the only reason players are coming over, is because, nba is the best skill level at the moment and pays the best at the moment. i think everyone wants to be a "home town hero" instead of playing somewhere else. best players don't really have a choice to pick an alternative league right now.
     
  4. yuantian

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    well, if there are 13/14 teams to choose from and they are STILL not satisfied. Then, banning them from playing in the league is Justified. I really think 1 team to choose from is not good for a lot of the players at all. I would think 13/14 lottery team would include multiple large market teams in it. And each lottery team is only allowed to sign one player from the pool. It's not like a major market team in lottery gets to sign multiple players. Players have to compete with each other if they want to end up in the major market.
     
  5. Yetti

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    Sorry but you must not think like an american, to get the full view of this situation you should also try and think from the chinese point of view. There are always many vews of the same question, with many answers!

    For one, the Bucks showed interest in Yi, they were warned off repeatedly, they never even had the chance to see him and test him, as he refused to attend their tryouts. The stage was set, the bucks hadn't learned anything from the Rockets and their dealings with China and all that had gone down before they agreed to let Yao Ming join the Rockets. The Bucks were detemined not to listen to all the messages that Yi would not play for them. They selected Yi against all that they knew but didn't believe to be true.

    So the Bucks have created this situation and they and the powers of chinese basketball will have to live with this. If the Bucks were able to understand Chinese thinking they would benifit from this and trade Yi, if not then they will be without Yi and his sevices for a year and then Yi will enter next years draft and go to a team of his liking.

    We can't blame Yi over this as the standards have been previously set by Yao Ming going to Houston and Steve Francis refusing to play in Vancouver and being traded to the Rockets. If you want to have chinese players play inthe NBA it's not as straight forward as drafting an american college player. It has to be a balance of both NBA ways and Chinese thinking. For now that's the way it has to be done. Unfortunately!!

    I just hope that this matter has a peaceful solution, as I would hope that the sporting relations between China and the USA will not be strained.
     
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  6. SamFisher

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    Hmm, no those weren't standards those were in fact radical exceptions to 99.99% of all other cases in history where the drafted player goes to the team that drafted him.
     
  7. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    what about all those cheap chinese knock off Yi Jerseys?
     
  8. Hayesfan

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    For those of us not around when Yao was drafted... explain exactly how this is the same.

    Yao went as a number one draft pick. Rockets had first choice, Rockets chose Yao.

    It all comes down to whoever has the "rights" the player thinking that they have more rights than the NBA teams in terms of drafting the player.

    Its a draft. Not a free agency.

    Yes you can talk before the draft to the agents and yes you can get a good idea of where your kid is going to play. But let's face it, Yi could have been drafted by the team that the people in charge wanted and then have his rights traded mere minutes after it happened.

    I think it was wrong for them to say the Bucks couldn't see the kid play.

    Bottom line... this decision is going to set a precedent for how international players are handled. If it comes to the point where the Bucks are forced to trade the kids rights, then it HURTS the entire system.
     
  9. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    this has nothing to do with the NBA.

    The NBA is a league where heroes and legends are made. Don't compare it to software companies. Legends are made on the court, and if Yi doesn't want to be on the court and let him play ping pong or something else besides NBA basketball.

    Oh he can pick a league right now. he can go to Rucker Park or try to shake the Professor on the And 1 league. Fonde Rec center I heard has some good competition.

    people can play basketball ANYWHERE.

    That's why Basketball is good. Its about freedom. But when you throw in an evil government who's basketball team can't beat the Knicks summer league team of midgets, then it corrupts what is right and good.

    you want to know an example of good? A young man from Nigeria came to the University of Houston. That man was picked by a city where it was really damn hot and had ANOTHER TALL PLAYER ( according to gongdong, Yi needs short players cause he can't play with tall players) on the team.

    That player ended up being a hero that saved the universe in 1993-1995.

    That's the NBA. That's heroes. That's what Yi doesn't deserve.
    Yi deserves And 1 tour on ESPN, so each week he plays and we get to vote him off if he sucks.
     
  10. AggieDentist

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    if the Tigers really are worried about Yi getting minutes in Milwaukee, the Rockets can help.

    TMac (+ Lucas/Snyder)

    for

    Redd + Villaneuva


    that clears up a lot of frontcourt minutes for Yi. hahaha.

    (not a serious suggestion, Milwaukee would laugh in Morey's face)
     
  11. yuantian

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    you mean heroes and legends can NOT be made in other leagues? get outta here. the whole nba is the best and everyone else just suck up and listen to nba is BS to me. and the whole point of playing in summer league is to get experience. if chinese players were winning all these summer league games, then most of the players would be playing in the league already. everyone knew they sucked, and you expected them to beat knicks summer league team? and once again, it's not about the government. in US, basketball started so early (100 years or more ago), comparing to china, it really started to develop in the last 20 years. CBA ain't even that old. of course, they are not as good as americans right now. a few people on this boards just can never think outside of american mentality.
     
  12. tinman

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    my mentality is based on the heroes of 1993-94 of Rudy T, Dream, Maxwell, Otis, Sam, Bullard, Kenny, Mario, Robert, Turbo, the old uniforms, the Summit, Channel 20, Lisa Molasky, Calvin Murphy, Bill Worrell, Gene and Jim, IW Marks, Houston Wrestling, Pappasitos, Mattress Mack and the crappy old Gallery Furniture, Richmond Ave, Westheimer, Hooters, Rick's, the Men's Club, the Colorado Bar and Grill, Ninfa's, MeyerPark 14, "Cold Beer, Cold Beer!", and the Rockets Red 'WOOOOO!! WOOOO! " Glare!!
     
  13. SamFisher

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    Man that beer vendor who used to yell "AYYYYYEEECE Cold Beer" at the Astrodome back in the 80's was really something.
     
  14. A-Train

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    You forgot OJ Simpson...
     
  15. Smokey

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    Go Yi and Go Longdong Tigers! Screwwaukee! Trade Novak, Landry, and the reporter at Ch. 2 for Yi!
     
  16. BEXCELANT

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    If I were them, I'd make the trade and get an established Post Player from another team.
     
  17. CBrownFanClub

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    One team to choose from is good for the league, but not the individual players perhaps. You see, in America, we value the benefit of the collective more than that of the individual. It's called communism.
     
  18. tinman

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    CBrown is right! the NBA, basketball is meant for all of us, any town, any place, any amount of tall or short players, any amount of chinese people.

    did you see that ESPN Ashe Award for those dudes in N Ireland who brought kids together by the game of hoops? Yi is INSULTING THE GAME and its true meaning of PEACE, LOVE, EQUALITY. Those dudes gave a shout out to SHAQ and the rest of the NBA. He thanked AMERICA..

    AMERICA!!


    Yeah, uh! Get up, now! Ow! Knock out this!

    Super highways, coast to coast,
    easy to get anywhere
    On the transcontinental overload,
    just slide behind the wheel
    How does it feel

    When there's no destination - that's too far
    And somewhere on the way,
    you might find out who you are

    Living in America - eye to eye, station to station
    Living in America - hand to hand, across the nation
    Living in America - got to have a celebration

    Rock my soul

    Smokestack, fatback,
    many miles of railroad track
    All night radio, keep on runnin'
    through your rock 'n' roll soul
    All night diners keep you awake,
    hey, on black coffee and a hard roll

    You might have to walk the fine line,
    you might take the hard line
    But everybody's working overtime

    Living in America - eye to eye, station to station
    Living in America - hand to hand, across the nation
    Living in America - got to have a celebration

    I live in America, help me out,
    but I live in America,
    wait a minute

    You might not be looking for the promised land,
    but you might find it anyway
    Under one of those old familiar names
    Like New Orleans (New Orleans),
    Detroit City (Detroit City), Dallas (Dallas)
    Pittsburg P.A. (Pittsburg P.A.),
    New York City (New York City)
    Kansas City (Kansas City),
    Atlanta (Atlanta), Chicago and L.A.

    Living in America - hit me
    Living in America - yeah,
    I walk in and out
    Living in America

    I live in America - state lines,
    gonna make the prime, that
    I live in America - hey,
    I know what it means, I

    Living in America - Eddie Murphy, eat your heart out
    Living in America - hit me, I said now, eye to eye,
    station to station
    Living in America - so nice, with your bare self
    Living in America - I feel good!
     
  19. deepblue

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    If Yi wants to be drafted again next year, he would have to sit out for an entire year, which means not playing at all.

    One year older and not in competition will only hurt his stock. Suck it up and play, there is an end date on the rookie contract.
     
  20. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    It seems to me that, post Fran Vazquez, if you draft a foreign player who says he does not want to play for your team then you're getting what you deserve when they refuse to play. Especially in one of the deepest drafts in recent years. So many people wanted Yi. It would have been so easy for them to rape some other team in a trade for that pick. Who knows what Golden State would've given for that pick. But no, Milwaukee has their eyes on Chinese markets. They got greedy and they got screwed. I have no empathy.

    Now, even if they do trade Yi they'll probably get screwed because he has taken their leverage away from them. Every team in the league knows the Bucks are between a rock and a hard place. Again, I say they deserve nothing less.
     

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