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[ESPN] Guangdong Tigers to block Yi from playing for Bucks

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by codell, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. yuantian

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    defect what? the country? that would be treason, death penalty applied. from what i know, he only disobeyed cba and basketball officials. if he really defect the country, he wouldn't be alive right now because he is an army officer. that would be death penalty for sure.
     
  2. TMac640

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    C'mon now, would you REALLLLLLY want to play for the grizzlies? :D
     
  3. TMac640

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    It sounds like he needs the death penalty then. On with it! :)
     
  4. RiceDaddy07

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    No matter what the real reasons are, if Yi leaving the Bucks actually happens it will look very bad for the perception of Chinese people, both the country and the people as a whole. The general public views things in very general terms, and it will be a black eye to the Chinese community not only in Milwaukee but by all basketball fans across the country.

    Also, it makes a mockery out of having a draft. What if Greg Oden didn't like Portland and decided he'd rather play with the Spurs next year? You can't do that. That's why we have a draft.
     
  5. BEXCELANT

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    This will actually set a precedent for International players. I think it's actually good for International Basketball around the world. Up to now, if you wanted to compete and earn major dollars and play with the best in the world you had to come to the NBA.

    What Spanoulis and Yi have done is highlight the International Option as an alternative to playing for the NBA. This basically breaks the monopoly for talent that the NBA has on the world. Did anyone seriously think that the NBA could hold on to the best basketball talent forever? There is the alternative to playing in the NBA and that's to stay at home and play for your National Team and still make a decent living.

    Eventually, I see basketball and the NBA evolving more into the FIBA model with International Basketball dominating instead of the US version dominating. It will turn into something more into something like soccer with a World Championship every 4 years. Why do I say this? Because as Basketball's popularity increases and each country produces better and better players with high earnings in their respective countries, what reason is there to come to the United States if they can make the same amount of money and be the National hero at home?

    From now on everyone should hold onto their collective hats because I guarantee you will see more of this behavior in years to come from International players. David Stern can complain all he wants but he cannot stop the basic Law of Supply and Demand.
     
  6. BEXCELANT

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    Oh and by the way, US Basketball players can also look to play internationally as an alternative to playing in the NBA to earn major dollars.
     
  7. RiceDaddy07

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    What you say scares me and is probably true.
     
  8. TeamUSA

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    Cuz it's not always all about the money. You can never feel great if you don't compete against the best.
     
  9. Easy

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    I hate it when players do that. (I know it's probably not Yi's own idea.) John Elway did that back then, threatening to play baseball if the "wrong" NFL team drafted him. I have never really respected Elway because of that. Francis did that. Even though we got the benefit. I still didn't like it. Eli Manning did that. I have no respect for these players.
     
  10. Easy

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    If you have enough money, you can definitely lure players. Remember the USFL? Quite a few marquee players actually went there. It looked for a while that the league was viable.

    I don't think it will happen to basketball any time soon though.
     
  11. Nick

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    John Elway would have been on a bad team for YEARS with the Colts... he goes to the better organization and ends up being one of the top 3 QB's ever. Steve Francis ended up getting a max deal out of playing for an up and coming Houston team... that never happens in Vancouver/Memphis. Eli Manning is the starting QB in the media capitol of the world, in the most popular league in the world.

    Yes, it "sucks" when a player does this to a team, in a system where the teams that need the most help theoretically should get the best players... but you can't fault a player for looking out for himself a little, especially when you see the results of what happens.

    If you're going to use examples, try to find some where a player holding out/requesting a trade actually backfired for that player... otherwise, there won't be any precedent that says Yi is doing the wrong thing for his career.

    A player only has a marginal amount of control before he signs that rookie contract... after that, the team is able to do whatever it wants to him (play him, not play him, trade him, etc.).
     
  12. codell

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    BEXCELANT,

    Definitely an interesting theory, but in the end, it's all about money and until overseas teams can pay players $10, $15, $20 mil per year like the NBA can, the best players, for the most part, will always play in the NBA.
     
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    Apologies accepted. Reciprocally, my apology extends to you and/or anyone who is offended by my post as a result of "perceived" oversensitivity on undeserved China/Chinese-bashing. Truth be told, I typically ignore the hateful comments with regard to China/Chinese by the usual ignorant suspects who are not known to be articulate on this board, but I feel more disturbed when I see stereotypical posts coming from posters who are normally well versed. I think we can all afford to be not generalizing with regard to any ethnic group.

    As to Wang Zhizhi's situation, I think it's unfortunate that his reluctance to go back to play for CNT in sub-significant tournaments in summer some years ago got entangled in a web of visa/passport complication, which rendered an appearance of "defection." A true defection has a staple of ideological shift by the defector. In Wang's case, there was none.
     
  14. BEXCELANT

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    Who says the best are gonna stay in the NBA?
     
  15. BEXCELANT

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    Yeah and what about Indy Cars? When CART Started up and Pulled all the drivers away from the regular Indy circuit.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    He might have done nothing in the past but it has been speculated that he is willing to draw a line here and put a stop to it, or so i have read.
     
  17. BEXCELANT

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    That kind of money for International Ball Players is just around the corner.
     
  18. codell

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    I'll believe it when I see it. The NBA is a global sport from a marketing standpoint, from which it's players benefit. So even if international leagues can match NBA salaries (which I doubt), are they going to match marketing potential?

    I am sure you can go to almost any country in the world and find folks wearing NBA jerseys, shoes, etc.

    The next time any of us see an international basketball jersey (well, besides Yao's) anywhere in the US would probably be a first.

    International leagues will need their games televised globally like the NBA does also

    There is ALOT that has to happen before international leagues can come close to competing with the NBA. IMO, it would have to start with a Lebron type potential #1 pick shunning the NBA and signing with an international team for mega bucks.
     
  19. tinman

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    If the Milwaukee Bucks played the Guangdong Tigers 100 times,
    the Bucks would win 100 times.

    David Stern,

    Just block this dude from the NBA, let him go to europe and play with Vspan.
    Yi got owned in summer league (don't give me this oden/durant didnt play well crap YOFers), this dude got whipped by midgets in summer league.

    When players who suffered civil wars and breakups of the country.. Like Boki Nachbar of Slovenia. Boki didn't care where he played, he let his game speak for himself. Dunking over Duncan, Jermaine ONeal, Sameul Dalamert..

    for the dudes here who like the foreign players, root for the ones with heart and passion like Yao, Boki, and Louis Scola.

    Think about Yi, only when you go to the toilet.
     
  20. geeimsobored

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    I'm not quite sure of that just yet. The highest paid players there barely approach the MLE in the NBA which is supposed to be the median salary. And that's including all the extra perks like not paying income tax, subsidized housing, etc.. that comes with some of those European countries.

    Euroleague teams still can't generate anything close to the cash of American clubs.

    They just don't have the fan base over there to generate the kind of cash necessary to pay contracts close to the NBA.
     

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