[ESPN] Guangdong Tigers to block Yi from playing for Bucks

FOR THE LAST MOTHER F*****G TIME, you people need to stop comparing the draft process to picking your job after graduating. The analogy is completely baseless.

 

that's right lasik,
those dude's need lasik cause they can't see the reality.

they don't know the NBA, they don't He Got Game with Jesus Shuttlesworth.
they don't know Regulators by Warren G.

 

ya right, i was listening to warren g back in the 1990s, hah you guys are entitled your view. some of us believe it's a business, you oughtta look after your own interest. you aint gon to convince us no matter what. i thought there is freedom of speech

 

Yes a new brand geared towards the china retro market

"Charmin Mao"

 

Now that is Laugh out loud funny !

 

nobody is stopping Yi from playing basketball at his dream location in LA, he can go to LA and play against Lisa Leslie and the Sparks, maybe he won't get dunked on.

 

but he would be dunking on them donuts

 

Unless Yi sits on his buns for a year and plays only for the CNT the Bucks will retain his rights. He will not be in the draft next year.

 

i donno, maybe his team gets really stubborn. and sit him out for a year. i recently heard someone completely made up that article. we'll see soon enough

 

That's beyond stubborn. It would be so incredibly stupid I don't think so. There is enough time before training camp to work this out. It could drag on another couple of months. IMO, the longer it takes, the less likely a trade will happen.

 

1. I was referring to their leverage with other teams in trade negotiations.

2. Sitting out for one year isn't all that big of a deal. I'd do it. Especially because you KNOW next year nobody would dare pick him unless he said he wanted to play there. He'll get into a perfect situation next season.

Some of you think the NBA should black list him, but they won't. At least one of the teams he has approved, like Milwaukee, is drooling over the prospect of access to the Chinese market.

He will be picked.

Hell, I remember Jim Jackson sitting out for over a year negotiating his contract with the Mavs. It's been done before, it just hasn't been done since the Collective Bargaining Agreement put a rookie contract scale in place.

 

Since the guy you were quoting was saying he agreed 100% with me, I'd like to point out that I actually agree with you. It is a completely baseless analogy.

At the same time, however, any team that doesn't take into consideration ALL of the factors when drafting a player - whether that be mental health ala Eddie Griffin or desire to play in your city ala Fran Vazquez/Yi Jianlan - is getting what they deserve if they get screwed.

I suppose what I'm saying is that it's not so much that I support the position Yi is taking as it is that I disdain the Bucks front office for making such a foolish decision. I feel for their fans. I remember how burned we felt when we had the #8 pick only to see it traded for Shane Battier and think about how Milwaukee fans don't even get Shane Battier out of this deal. Why? Because the Milwaukee front office didn't care what Yi and his team were saying and didn't bother taking it into consideration. They wanted access to Chinese revenue. Now they have neither access to Chinese revenue or a player to show for the #6 pick in the draft. They better do the wise thing and trade Yi's rights to somebody for something. The fans deserve to have something to show for it. Maybe they can still get lucky and get Brandan Wright off of Golden State.

 

JMW, that post wasn't directed at you, but at those people who keep insisting that the draft process is like picking a job. If that was the case, the draft wouldn't exist and there be close to zero parity in the NBA (or any other sport for that matter).

I am very interested in seeing how this plays out because Yi is not a proven talent (as Elway and to some extent Francis were) nor does he have the name recognition of an Eli Manning.

 

well, hopefully something will work out. i can't wait for this to end. i wanna see the ending for this big soap opera

 

see, people in china thinks he is.

 

Yeah. I understood that, but I thought it was a good opportunity to separate myself from the "It's like picking a job after college" camp.

And you're right, he's not even as proven as Francis, but he's every bit as proven as Kobe Bryant was when he refused to play for Charlotte.

 

The draft process is like picking a job. The only difference is that it is higher scale, more profile, and involves a lot more money. When folks make these analogies they are only trying to point out that there is nothing wrong with a person wanting to be in a position that is comfy for them...similar to when someone comes out of college. We here cried of "if you won't go anywhere they send you then don't apply". That is very much like some real jobs. There are numerous companies that people apply for jobs at, not knowing what city or store branch they will be placed in. Just because they get selected doesn't mean they have to take it if they feel they have a better option...to think so is silly. Again, the only thing that seperates this from that is the $$$ involved. But at the end of the day it's all about options and leverage.

Just because you sign up to get drafted doesn't mean you have to report to the team that picked you. The rules aren't even designed that way. You have the option to not play pro ball for a year and enter the draft again. You have the option to not sign an agent and go back to school if you have eligibility left. The main penalty of not reporting is that you don't get paid. You just rarely see it done because it's very rare for a person to have another option that will pay the booko dollars. But it can happen. This happens with multi-sport athletes all the time..that are drafted in different leagues. They go with their best option. This has happened in the past with foreign players who have the option to stay at home and still get paid to play (Sabonis, Vasquez, V-Span even though he signed a contract).

Again, I have no issue with what Yi is doing and I don't feel like he is doing anything wrong or anything that hasn't been done before. The only difference here is that he is Chinese (not making it a race thing, but pointing out the aspect of dealing with the govt, his handlers, or whatever). If a player isn't happy with where they will spend the next few years of their life then they don't have to go. It makes no sense for them to go if they can make $$$ somewhere else or doing something else.

And someone else mentioned that playing in the NBA is a privelage. Sorry, but that is BS. It takes a lot of hard work, dedication and sacrifice to make it to the NBA or any other professional sport. The league and it's owners makes tons off these players so they deserve every penny they get. How can you say ther are privelaged? They are the key behind a multi-billion dollar operation...unless you are gonna shell out money to see Les Alexander run up and down the court......

 

I think the Bucks made their draft pick knowing Yi would never play for them.

I think they knew the pressure the "China Connection" would put on David Stern and that he would have to work behind the scenes to get the Bucks more than the value of the pick in a trade for the good of the league. They played their small market little guy role to perfection, Yi wasn't a position of need for them, he was just the best value pick on the board when their turn came. You can't let value just slip by.

It may take a year but you know some greedy owners are looking at the Chinese money Les is making and angling on how to pry Yi away from the Bucks. I bet it will be the biggest combination of players, draft choices, taking on a bad contract and cash you can slip by the CBA. And the guy that owns the Tigers will probably get some too.

 

Money? What money? The punk is damaged goods now. After the crap he has pull, his image properly is the same as Kobe after rape charges but without Kobe's skill.

 

You are never damaged goods as long as you can help some team win. Artest, Jackson, Pacman, TO, Ray Lewis, Kobe, etc....