DD, I think you know that I respect you and enjoy your posts. In fact, I'll say it: I like you (no homo). That being said.... The above quote might be the single most ridiculous statement I've ever seen on this board or any other for that matter. Marbury is a perennial loser. And I don't want to hear that crap about "he's never been on a good squad". That Knicks team he has been on the past few years is LOADED with talent. They can just never bring it together. And that starts with their leader - the man who calls himself Starbury. I really don't think anybody in the NBA (with the possible exception of Shareef Abdur-Rahim) embodies the term 'loser' more than Marbury. I don't even think the guy cares if he wins. So long as he's making 15-20 million a year and getting his, who cares?
Marbury is a complete loser and I wouldn't want him near any of our current players, even if he paid handsomely for the privilege.
Uhh, you value the Rockets team chemistry and whatnot, and even if for FREE, it does not negate the fact that Marbury is a team cancer who disrupts things, and always gets into it with his coach. PASS
You are damn right. I would add Zack Randolph, Damon Jones (yes a role player but despicable nevertheless), Eddy Curry and Jerome James to that list. Interesting enough, all but Damon Jones are on the same team...
Knicks' Marbury to come off bench against Kings SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Stephon Marbury joked about his new reserve role before the New York Knicks' 123-118 double-overtime against Sacramento on Friday night. "I guess I'll be competing with Manu Ginobili and Jason Terry for Sixth Man of Year," Marbury said. "This is just another chapter and I have to make an adjustment. I'm not going to cry about it." Marbury, back for his second game after skipping out on the team in Phoenix following a clash with coach Isiah Thomas, wasn't in the starting lineup. "Well, he won't start tonight," Thomas said. "As the game moves on we'll see how much he plays and how we play." Marbury scored 15 points on 4-for-10 shooting with four assists and two turnovers in 44 minutes off the bench. Starter Mardy Collins, by comparison, had four points and two assists in 19 minutes of work. A decision has been made for me to come off the bench. I'm willing to take on that role. I'm not happy and comfortable with that, but that's something that I have to do. It's definitely lighting a fire under me to play at a higher level. Marbury was fined $182,000 for leaving the Knicks in Phoenix and missing their loss Tuesday night to the Suns. Against the Los Angeles Clippers a night later, he came off the bench and scored 13 points in the Knicks' 84-81 loss. "A decision has been made for me to come off the bench," Marbury said. "I'm willing to take on that role. I'm not happy and comfortable with that, but that's something that I have to do. It's definitely lighting a fire under me to play at a higher level." Thomas wouldn't comment about reports that Marbury's teammates voted not to let him play against the Clippers. "We'll just keep that in-house," Thomas said. Marbury said he did not know it if the vote took place or not it, but he understands what the team was going through. "I guess my teammates took a stand for something that shouldn't have happened," Marbury said. "I can't do nothing about that. I can't control that. I'm sure guys were disappointed because they didn't know what was going on." Malik Rose said Marbury apologized to the team. "There's a lot of things going," Rose said. "There's still things going on from months ago and those things kind of take away from basketball. But it wasn't like Stephon and Isiah's latest situation was the culmination of those things. It was just something that had happened and took our minds off of basketball." After the shootaround session Friday afternoon at the Kings' practice facility, Thomas said his focus is on winning and that he will use "everything necessary in the tool shed" to succeed. "From that point guard position, I need leadership and I need defense," Thomas said. "And [Marbury] is capable of doing those two things, but tonight we'll start Mardy Collins at that position and move through the game from that point on." Marbury echoed Thomas' demands when asked about regaining his starting spot. "I have to play defense and lead the team," Marbury said. "That's what [Thomas] said. ... I've said my peace on this. This is something I'm going to put behind me and just to continue on playing basketball." <hr> Stephon Marbury Early professional career Marbury was selected fourth overall by the Milwaukee Bucks in the 1996 NBA Draft, then traded to the Minnesota Timberwolves for the draft rights to Ray Allen (who was drafted immediately after him) and a future first-round pick. In his first season in the league, Marbury averaged 15.8 points and 7.8 assists per game and was named to the 1997 All-Rookie Team. He, along with Kevin Garnett, led the Timberwolves to the NBA Playoffs in 1997 and 1998. Marbury fell out with Timberwolves management stemming from a dispute with coaches about his role in the offense, and his agent David Faulk demanded a trade during the lockout-shortened 1999 season, Marbury was traded to the New Jersey Nets in a three-way trade in which Terrell Brandon was sent from Milwaukee to Minnesota and Sam Cassell was sent from New Jersey to Milwaukee.... ...New York Marbury, along with Penny Hardaway and Cezary Trybanski, was traded to the New York Knicks on January 5, 2004 for Howard Eisley, Charlie Ward, Antonio McDyess, Maciej Lampe, draft rights to Milos Vujanic, a first-round 2004 draft choice, and an additional future first-round draft choice, likely to be in the 2010 draft.[2] This brought Marbury full circle, as he grew up in New York and was a lifelong Knicks fan. He made an immediate impact, leading a Knicks team in transition to the playoffs on the strength of his performances. Marbury played for the United States (Dream Team IV) in the 2004 Summer Olympics, the first of the US teams composed of NBA players to fail to win the gold medal. He and his teammates returned with bronze. Despite the disappointment, Marbury scored a US team Olympic record 31 points in a game against Spain. During the 2005-2006 season Marbury feuded with Larry Brown. Towards the end of the 2005-2006 season, the Knicks' poor performance combined with Marbury's public spats with his coach led to a severe decline in Marbury's popularity, with Frank Isola and Michael O'Keefe of the New York Daily News stating that Marbury is "the most reviled athlete in New York."[3] The public feud between Marbury and Brown was one of the reasons Larry Brown was fired at the end of the 2005-06 NBA season.[4] Isiah Thomas took over the coaching role and the Knicks were slightly more successful during the 2006-2007 season, surpassing the previous year's 23 wins 54 games into their 82-game season before falling off and finishing with only 33. Despite the fact that Marbury had less impressive statistics than in prior years, some pundits claimed that Marbury's newfound unselfishness was key to the team's apparent improvement towards the end of the season. <hr> Marbury Hasn’t Won Since His Breakup With Garnett Stephon Marbury was all smiles as he left the Knicks’ locker room, shuffled down a dim hallway and ducked through double doors to meet a crowd of friends and family late Monday night. There was no wrecking Marbury’s mood at this moment. Kevin Garnett, top, is now with the Celtics and Stephon Marbury is with the Knicks. Garnett and Marbury were teammates with the Timberwolves in 1998. Madison Square Garden, which had recently turned so hostile, had just showered Marbury in adulation. Coach Isiah Thomas, who had recently benched him, now needed full paragraphs to express his appreciation. A 113-109 defeat of the Utah Jazz had healed many wounds, and Marbury — whose career path resembles a billboard-sized echocardiogram — was on another new high. Even a rapid-fire question about his past could not disturb him. So, about that great new Boston Celtics team built around your old friend Kevin Garnett? “I’m happy for everybody,” Marbury said, grinning and without breaking stride, before disappearing through the double doors. The truth is more complicated. When Marbury and Garnett meet at center court tomorrow in Boston, it will serve as a stinging, nationally televised reminder of all that has gone wrong in the last decade of Marbury’s basketball life. The Celtics (11-2), newly rebuilt around Garnett, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, have the N.B.A.’s best record. They are the buzz of the league, contenders to win the Eastern Conference. The Knicks (4-9) recently lost eight consecutive games while Marbury and Thomas feuded. They create more static than buzz. It did not have to be this way. Marbury and Garnett could still be Minnesota Timberwolves teammates, making annual playoff runs in the West. “You easily could have made a case that they should have been a top-16 team for 10-plus years,” said Reggie Miller, the TNT analyst and former Indiana Pacers star, who will be part of the broadcast team tomorrow. Eleven years ago, Marbury and Garnett were a dynamic guard-forward tandem for the Internet age, Generation Y’s answer to John Stockton and Karl Malone. Eight years ago, Marbury broke up the partnership, forced his way out of icy Minneapolis and cast himself into the N.B.A. wilderness. Both players were worse for the breakup. Since 1999, Marbury has played for three teams, made two playoff appearances and never advanced past the first round. Garnett stayed in Minnesota, made the playoffs six times and advanced past the first round only once (losing to the Los Angeles Lakers in the 2004 conference finals). For years, the only thing Marbury and Garnett shared was heartbreak and fleeting thoughts of what might have been. Occasionally, they would muse about a redemptive reunion. “That would be great; that would be a beautiful thing,” Marbury said in March 2006. But Marbury wanted Garnett in New York, and Garnett wanted Marbury in Minneapolis, and there was never any substance to the idea. It was a nice fantasy to keep them warm through the cold N.B.A. winters. It also belied the bad feelings that pushed them apart. They were divided by ego, jealousy, immaturity and money when the Timberwolves traded Marbury, at his request, to the Nets in March 1999. At the time, Marbury was 22 and Garnett a month shy of 23. Miller, who was then a 33-year-old veteran with the Pacers, recalls viewing the moment with disappointment. “Especially with younger players, because ego gets in the way a lot,” Miller said. Dollar signs clouded the issue. Garnett had signed a $126 million contract with the Timberwolves in 1998 — a deal that helped provoke the N.B.A. lockout, which resulted in new restrictions on player salaries. As a result, the most Marbury could get in a contract extension was $70.9 million. Garnett and Marbury had been co-equals in game plans and marketing campaigns. Suddenly, there was an imbalance. “He said the kind of money that K. G. makes is really bothersome for him and that the town was not big enough for both of them,” Kevin McHale, the Timberwolves’ vice president for basketball operations, said of Marbury at the time. “He unequivocally said he would not come back.” Marbury has long chafed at this story line, saying that he simply disdained the frosty Minneapolis winters and that he longed to play closer to his native New York. During a telephone interview in August, Marbury — while making a rambling defense of his career in general — brought up the fateful trade, unsolicited. “I’ve been defending myself since I left Minnesota,” he said. “Because I didn’t comply to what they wanted, then it was like: ‘Oh, I’m selfish. I’m this. I’m that.’ I’m like: ‘How can that be? You were just about to give me $71 million! Who gives someone $71 million and they’re selfish and they’re jealous of Kevin Garnett and all of this stupid stuff?’ It’s a joke.” Marbury added, “I’m happy that I went through that fight, because I wouldn’t be in this place where I am now, in my mind.” The Garnett-Marbury relationship hit another sour note in December 2002, when Marbury was with Phoenix and rashly declared that the Suns’ Amare Stoudemire had already surpassed Garnett. “This is Steph being jealous,” Garnett said then. “I’m still on his mind.” In the seasons that followed, Marbury often turned testy when he was asked about Garnett. The tension has eased over time, with both players confronting greater concerns — foremost, their shrinking window for winning a title. During his wild July television interview, Marbury expressed heartfelt regret. “I was just telling my friends in the car,” he said, “I want to call K. G. and tell him I’m sorry for anything that ever happened and anything that’s ever been done or said between us.” A reconciliation is still possible. But now that Garnett is a Celtic — the result of a July trade — it appears to be too late to ponder a reunion. The question is whether it is also too late for Marbury to find redemption. “In this league, you only get so many opportunities,” Miller said. “You’re taking layers and layers off your career when you head-butt and you get into little petty jealousy, he said-she said, egomaniac stuff. You only got so much time in this league, and you want to make the most of it.”
I think that Marbury will finally get his wish. No NBA team is willing to pay him a big salary after watching the debacle known as the New York Knicks. However, Lottomatica or Trevisio Benneton could offer him a lucrative salary to come play in Italy thus fulfilling his dream of ending his career playing in Italy.
I seriously LOL'd at this post. Sparing no mercy are you jshabang? Haha. No offence to you DD, I know you speak your mind and I respect that. But Marbury makes his teammates better? Well, if you had a whole team of Stephon Marburys then maybe. Dude is whack. Artest might be crazy off the court, but on the court he plays the game with a fire. He tries to win. Marbury is crazy both off AND on the court. The others who said he belongs to the group of players that you don't even touch for free are right. He's in the Glenn Robinson, Antoine Walker et al mold of losers who put up numbers only for themselves. I think if he can't cut it in NY, his NBA career is done. Might as well fulfill that Italian wish huh, Mr Marbury?
This is the kind of quote that can be used to invlidate every single argument you make on this board from here on.
I can't wait until we get Artest. It's gonna be so cool when he climbs into the stands and punches a clutchfans/artest supporter. That would be funny. Point is, don't try to make Artest out to be less of a nut than Marbury. Marbury could be a cheap option 3rd scorer that adds to the team. Artest is gonna require giving up an integral part of our current team or our future.
Nobody said he is less than a nut man...........We have been tryin to tell DD that........my friend DD gets on this board spewin how Artest is a cancer this.......knucklehead that............chemistry killer..............yada yada yada.......in one sentence/thread And in the next sentence/thread hes talkin Marbury this......Marbury that...........We need to take a look at him.........he has skills..........MAKES THE PLAYERS AROUND HIM BETTER(EASILY THE MOST LAUGHABLE THING I HAVE HEARD IN YEARS ON THE BBS) If one guys a cancer....the other is as well Its not us u need to explain this to......... O and for the record.........a package of Brooks, battier, chucky or a draft pick doesnt qualify in my book as givin up a integrel part of our team.......IMO Integerl part in my mind is Yao, Tracy, Scola to an extent...............just my thoughts people.......
By people who have no concept of what a PG or an assist consists of.....Marbury has consistently been a playmaker throughout his career. While he is certainly no Jason Kidd, or Steve Nash.......he has been better than Steve Francis...... Marbury's basketball skills IMO are not in question it is his attitude. Even some people's BBall man crush JVG thinks Marbury is a great PG. Oh well.....sometimes the masses are just wrong. And it is amazing to me how people can not figure out the difference between taking a FREE look at a player like Marbury, or breaking up your team chemistry for Artest.....it is not apples to apples. Let me make it clear for the people who seem to not be able to grasp the concept. If Marbury or Artest were released, I would be in favor of the Rockets trying to sign them for the league minimum, that way, if they are still knuckleheads, they can be released and no harm, no foul. I would NOT be in favor of trading any core piece for either Artest or Marbury.... It is a 100% consistent argument.....but people are more interested in trying to link two arguments to make others look foolish...when the opposite is what is happening to anyone with a brain. DD
He hasn't been able to help a team for years. The last time he got to the 2nd round was when the Suns pipped us at the post.Francis,Mobley,Mo Taylor,and Moochie were the players and Rudy T was the coach. He had 4.7 assists last year in 24 games.He should have been able to get more than that. I understand your argument if it doesn't work out,cut him. I feel he is a shadow of what he used to be,even without all the baggage.
The Great DD has finally stepped back in the room to defend himself against the evil doers on the bbs.....lol Another Feeble attempt to soften the blow of some of the worse inconsistencies that u have been spewing lately huh......well Man at the end of the day I feel u.....I would try to clear my name to..........lol DD for the last time man.......we like u and we are not just tryin to make u look foolish....but man stay on one side of the fence First of all .......I cant even begin to help u on the starbury makes people better statement......and u cant either...........that was the worse thing any of us have heard in the bbs probably ever........and u gotta live with that as it is a direct quote from u.........sorry man....... Sayin he is better than steve francis is not sayin anything.......u might as well not said anything Your main arguement is point guard upgrade and u say he can outplay francis????????.......wow thats sayin alot.........for the record DD Aaron Brooks is outplayin francis right now.............so thats not sayin much Tell me he will outplay a very inconsistent Rafer Alston.........go ahead.....say it.......please....... I dare u to............ On second thought dont......I dont want u gettin flamed any more than u have....so on second thought please dont say that...... Secondly lets touch on u tryin to cover your obvious contradicting on marbury/artestby using the line that Marbury is Free, Artest is not .....arguement......... First off u claimed and hooped and hollered that Artest was a Chemistry killer and how that would destroy a Rocks team no matter his talent Hello Starbury will do the same I dont care what his salary is........Chemistry killer is a chemistry killer no matter the salary so why is one better than the other????????.......explain Secondly u hide behind this "if hes cheap u cut him....no harm, no foul thing"...........to hide your inconsistencies as well Well guess what DD?????????? The same applys to Artest.......... U still dont get it do u???? If we trade for him and he explodes.......dont resign him........hes on a one year expiring contract.....if he does well, bring him back in.........."no harm, no foul" right????? if he implodes we will have 7 amilli next offseason to spend and a mle..........better than a lle minimum contract(which is what u propose to offer to starbury) off the books next season if we need to snag someone....IMO........... actually the upside is greater with Artest....cuz if he doesnt flame........we might be hoisting a Trophy up this season........so that point alone would make me take the risk/reward chance on Ron Ron.........as opposed to marbury if i had to pick Same thing and it is apples to apples............ or maybe apples to oranges in our favor........ u got raferitis lately man.........hit the court and work on your jumper all summer.....you are gettin inconsistent man..........
