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[ESPN] Eagles Trade Donovan Mcnabb to Redskins

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by RocketMania1991, Apr 4, 2010.

  1. moestavern19

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    Kolb did actually play well last season in the few games he started, Ware on the other hand flat out sucked ass.
     
  2. ubigred

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    Shanahan will make try to Brandon Marshall from Denver next.
     
  3. Obito

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    I also, can take consolation that Al Davis is still up and kicking. Anything that guarantees my team 2 easy wins next season and the misery of a hated rival for a while gets my appreciation, "just suck ass baby".
     
  4. Jontro

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    I don't follow football at all.. but I'm excited a fellow Coog is getting a chance to shine on the big stage. My friend had an English class with Kolb and IIRC he wasn't the brightest bulb on the ceiling.
     
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    Statement from McNabb...

    http://espn.go.com/blog/sportscenter/post/_/id/42022/donovan-mcnabb-statement-on-trade-to-redskins
     
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    When Andre Ware ran the Run and Shoot it was pretty much a unique animal, now everyone and their dog runs a spread offense and teams can scheme for it a little better. Andre had a legit college arm, and was always hitting his smurfs when they were behind the defense. The Coogs, then and now, used the little 1-3 step drop quick hitter to the wide out for 5 yards as a run play, but the systems weren't exactly the same and Kolb definitely had the disadvantage of opposing defenses being "ready" for the Cougar spread.

    I'm 39 and watched a lot of Cougar football in the late 80's when I was in HS. In fact I think I even saw Andre play for Dickinson HS once.

    I don't think Kevin is a "can't miss pro"...but I don't think we need to dismiss him because he went to the same school as a couple of QB's who turned out to not be able to adapt from an innovative (at the time) system to the pros.
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    So you think the Briles Spread and the Pardee RNS were similar?

    I feel differently.

    The RNS never included a TE (not the Briles lived and died by it, but it was fairly common)... and Briles seldom used motion. (something that was a staple for the RNS)

    The RNS ran the ball quite a bit less than Briles ever did... (probably about 25% more or so, based on Spoons numbers, and the Briles teams could actually milk clock running the ball... which is nice)

    The RNS was one of the worst red zone schemes ever devised, but Kevin never struggled in that area, nor did the Cougars...

    I really don't think it is a fair comparison as one might think of comparing Kliff Kingsbury and Graham Harrel, or something like that.

    We're talking 15 years and 4 coaches later...

    As for Andre's flop, I think the RNS shares as much blame as his holdout does.

    I don't think the time Kevin spent in Briles' system will have any impact on his growth as a player, especially now being 3 years removed and having completed one of the more lengthy apprenticeships we've seen from a highly drafted QB in a while.

    If you want to argue physical tools/ability, they may be more similar... but when it comes to 1) the coach/system they played in and 2) the situation they're entering their NFL career under... they're fairly different in my eyes.
     
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    Sure, keep telling yourself that beating the ****tiest team over a consecutive 7 year span in NFL history is an accomplishment. :)
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    Yes I think they were similar. When you look at all the different offenses used in college ball through the years, Briles spread and the RNS were similar. Teams that line up in a straight "I" formation and run the ball, or teams that have used the wishbone are much different than the Spread or the RNS.

    I just didn't understand how you could be so sure Kolb was not going to be the next Andre Ware when you weren't around to see Ware play.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    On the same note, I don't understand how people can think Kolb *is* going to be the next Andre Ware, since I'm apparently the only person from this BBS who went to UH games from 02-06 :(

    (Or at least the only person who talks about it... )
     
  12. moestavern19

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    I'd be right there with you, but I only knew "of" UH back then. :)
     
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    Washington would have to trade down in the first round if that were the case as I don't see Shanny giving up the fourth overall pick for Marshall.

    I do, however, expect Marshall to be dealt on draft day to either Seattle or Washington.
     
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    This will give the Skins a great opportunity to trade down from the 4th pick if Clausen is still on the board, they decide they'd pass, and another team is eager to nab him at that pick.

    Either way this was a win for the Skins, Philly is still in the air until Kolb proves he can man the position full time. Good luck to him.

    And great for fantasy drafts this gives two more starters to choose from out of the slim pickings for quality QBs, if Kolb excels that is.
     
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    They tried to deal Haynesworth to get Mcnabb.
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    haynesworth is a piece of work. that guy could be so great
     
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    Tracy Mcgrady approves this message.
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    With that contract, it's like trying to move a damned mountain.
     
  19. moestavern19

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    Interesting that the Redskins and Raiders were trying to pawn off these "monumental" defensive players who may be the best at their positions but are still grossly overpaid.
     
  20. DonnyMost

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    The Nmadi rumors never got verified.

    Big Al did though.
     

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