ESPN Draft Buzz : Rockets using Landry to try to acquire lotto pick

lol pwned. Still I don't think its fair to say Dorsey has a horrible work ethic. Dude is chiseled and cut like a marble statue. You don't get that kind of body from being a bum. He just had plantar fascitis and got demoralized. Hopefully he shows up this camp healthy and and in shape. I mean, we were injured so much last year even our scrubs got injured. We're destined to be healthy this year. Right? Right?

 

or another trade
or f/a signing w/or w/in MLE
or Artest and/or Battier get time at the 4

remember a b/u 5 is on the way. Perhaps a b/u 4/5 - can anyone spell E-l-t-o-n???

 

Dorsey has done jack and squat to show he's capable of doing anything in the NBA. Offseason videos of shooting mechanics proves zero over Landry, who's also putting in his offseason work to become better. I just don't see the logic in saying Dorsey has proven anything at the NBA level, other than earning himself a permanent seat at the end of the bench for his poor attitude.

 

We have to take into account that Landry is an old "young" player. I think he is 25/26 this/next year.

Though frankly speaking, we're not at rebuilding stage yet. We may be in a couple of years, but now experience is more important than skills. Keep Landry, he has shown to be quite valuable during playoffs.

 

i don't understand what we're trying to do.

are we trying to get a PG? if so, we'll have some expendable people at that position...and i'm guessing aaron brooks is more attractive to lure trades at this point than landry is...so why isn't he the one being shipped out?

are we trying to make room for another PF?? that's the only thing that makes sense to me. we're going to acquire a PF through a trade or in the draft that they're targetting, and Landry is expendable at that point.

 

are you insane? why don't we offer yao ming for a lottery draft pick in this draft??? the answer is simple, simply because aaron brooks is worth far more than anyone projected to go from 5-15 and worth much less than anyone in the top 5. I think morey is trying to package brooks in a megadeal that nets us a superstar like kevin martin or someone perhaps a bit more tradeable like steve nash. pretty sure phoenix would love aaron brooks to be their PG of the future. They actually targetted brooks in the 07 draft but we nabbed him before they could.

why would we be trying to make room for another PF??? chuck hayes isnt even getting any minutes right now unless he has to be deployed on defensive assignments against PF superstars like garnett. Landry can easily play 30 mpg and put up big stats if there were enough minutes to go around. simply put just because you are trading away tj ford doesnt mean you are trying to bring devin harris to backup jose calderon. (lol bad example but u get the idea).

awesome move by Morey. exactly what I had in mind.

Carl Landry

for

New Jersey's 11th pick
and
Eduardo Najera's contract. (or Trenton Hassell's 4.5 million exp if NJ prefers).

 

yes, but that doesn't have anything to do with it. what's your home address? do you have an alarm system?

 

I think if morey is going to offer landry around is because he probably has reached his limit and his explosiveiness.

 

With Scola on the Rockets team, Landry can hardly collect the minutes he deserves even though he has more abilities than a starting PF is expected to have. While a lottery team will give Landry enough space for growing, and the lottery pick gives Rockets more mud and bricks to fix other spots which are relatively weak. Hayes will be quite enough to fill the blank Landry leaves. So it's a good move for both the team and Landry himself.

 

If we were to trade for 11, who would you see us taking? Earl Clark? Or someone like Terrance Williams or Gerald Henderson?

I tend to think we would go after a SG and then make another move for a big, I just don't know what that move would be. And I can't see Morey making this move and taking a SG without having a plan to get a big.

We need someone that can play significant minutes at the 4/5, more minutes than Landry. I love Landry, he is honestly my favorite player on the team, but if we can get someone that can backup Scola and Yao effectively, that's the way to go. And no I don't think Earl Clark is that guy, that guy is not in this draft. Well maybe Jordan Hill, but he wouldn't be there at 11.

 

Or they know something regarding his past injuries that could haunt Carl in the seasons to come.

 

That's that same thing I tought we wound up with Steve Francis and Eddie Griffin.

I'm just saying... (Please don't turn this into a Griffin thread, although it does bring to light the chance you take given up Carl for an unproven talent)

 

I think Ty Lawson is a Morey kind of player- tremendous stat player, plus great athlete.

Would love to see Lawson on the team.

Landry needs to improve, maybe he will be stronger next season and return to more of an explosive player around the basket. He is not a strong defender and pretty weak back to the basket in the post.

Hayes is an above avg. defender but he really hinders the offense

Scola is solid and could be even better this season.

I wouldn't mind moving Landry for a mid lottery pick and a equally effective big in return.

I think Lawson will go 6-14

 

How much more explosiveness do you want from him. He's the most explosive two legged jumper on the team and best finisher.

 

ill be glad you explain the "craziness" if you can be more specific?

 

What in the hell? This has to be some sort of sarcasm.

Dorsey capable of hitting the open J at a decent rate? Are we talking about the same Joey Dorsey.

I don't see anything about Dorsey that says he will match the production that Landry gave us.

 

There is a difference between throwing out a players name to see what offers are sent back, then trying like heel and high water to get rid of a player. Let's say for argument sake, New York says we will give you David Lee and our pick for Landry and McGrady's contract.

Morey just put Landry's' name out there to see how much interest is out there.

 

Yes he still has to show it on the court, but i was talking about moves, shot mechanics, ability to make it, not in-game plays......im not sure where you get dorsey has disappointing work ethic? As oppose to landry's? Landry hasn't improved a lot since he got here, he just started at a higher level than Dorsey. Why can't dorsey catch up or why can't he be that close? Landry isn't that much better fundamentally and as far as attitude and hustle they aren't that far either, they're closer to the same mold than you think, but dorsey has been able to get away with just being athletic, while Landry happened to add a shot in college and made it more consistent...

There has to be something they see in dorsey to get him in the first place and then keep him around, not to mention how much time they're devoting to him this offseason

 

Dorsey has not played because he has absolutely no offensive game. Have you seen those videos where they are trying yo teach him a fundamental jump hook? Landry has a mid range jumper. Dorsey can dunk, he cannot even make close shots around the rim

 

Your whole argument on Dorsey seems to be that he is getting better in the off-season. Well I'm pretty sure Landry is too. Dorsey may be a good defender for us but I doubt he will ever be good on the offensive end.