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[ESPN] Donovan Changes Mind

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ballaboy, Jun 3, 2007.

  1. baller4life315

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    This is very reminiscient of when Coach K. burned the Lakers in 2004........
     
  2. rrj_gamz

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    What a p*ssy...How do you do that...
     
  3. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Member

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    did he sign a contract w/ the lakers?
     
  4. Achilleus

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    Maybe someone is finally listening to "Scott Ramsey for youtube sports."

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  5. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Ahahahahahahaha! Gold
     
  6. justtxyank

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    How exactly? Coach K entered into negotiations with the Lakers and then after thinking their offer over, elected to remain at Duke.

    Donovan negotiated, signed a contract, and had a press conference as the new coach of the Magic and then changed his mind.

    I fail to see similarities beyond both being college coaches.
     
  7. SladeRider

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    I feel sorry for the Magic franchise, they didn't deserve to be a treated with suck disrespect and this surely means the end of Donovan's NBA career before it even started.

    The guy has lost a ton of respect and if anyone uses teh fact that the Magic demanded a quick decision has a fault is wrong, anyone can say they need more time, if he didn't like making a quick decision, you simply say no.

    I hope that UF don't take him back, because they are taking back a man that has no backbone and no respect.

    I hope the Magic make Donovan sign a contract that prevents him signing with an NBA team for the 5 years of the contract he had with them, just in case some NBA team is now stupid enough to hire him and maybe take it to the next level and say he can't coach any basketball team in the state of Florida for that 5 year period, something he deserves after his actions.
     
  8. AggieDentist

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  9. baller4life315

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    All just IMO........

    It's all about seeking attention. Coach K. is a notorious attention w****. After he declined the Lakers job he claimed in interviews that he was never even close to leaving Duke, that it was all about staying at Duke, blah blah blah. Why even have the "serious discussions" with the Lakers in the first place, then? Why torture us with the "Kobe has chosen to handpick his new coach" hoopla, then? It seems like only at the climax of the media circus did he finally announce his intention to stay at Duke.

    Now, Donovan's case is obviously a little different since his media train involved actually signing the contract before trying to back out. In addition, his decision to change his mind will probably cost him any possibility of getting another NBA coaching offer and possible lawsuit from the Magic, you still have to wonder how much of this is vanity. Considering the substantial pay increase he was about to receive, Florida is inevitably going to have to up the ante to "keep" him. He stays, they pay more, he ends up happy.

    This whole situation is just extremely bizarre. The idea that a professional such as Donovan could be so indecisive after signing a contract and having the press conference is nothing short of juvenile. I'm joking when and I say this but it makes you wonder if some psycho Gators fan or booster kidnapped his family or blackmailed him or something. You know, something straight out of a Mel Gibson movie because these types of situations just shouldn't happen.
     
  10. BigM

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    lmao, what was that?
     
  11. doublebogey

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    Orlando Magic = a series of unfortunate events since 1996:

    - havent won a playoff series since 1996
    - Shaq bolted.
    - Signed an injured G Hill for max.
    - Signed T-Mac for max who bolted after 4 seasons.
    - Drafted a lottery pick (#10?) last season who didnt want to come.
    - And NOW, sign a coach who doesnt want to coach.

    - The only luck the Magic got, Isiah Thomas traded for Steve Francis's bad contract.

    Well, the Magic still are cursed.
     
  12. TMac640

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    What a b**** move. Guy's worse than Larry Brown and Nick Saban combined, lol.

    Here's a hint:

    don't take the ****ing job if you're going to back out. dumbass.
     
  13. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    At least he was honest with his feelings from the get go. I think its admirable. Having the balls to admit you are wrong. To do it before its too late. He knew he would have to go through hell. But the Florida atmosphere was strong enough to keep him true to his heart.

    CAREBEARS!!!
     
  14. Samar

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    Honest to his feelings? Thats some BS

    Basically what it came down to was that he had no balls. He realized he was not a great coach, and probably would be fired a couple of times in the NBA and not be able to get back to a great program like Florida. So he decides to go with job security.

    What a pansy. Just like the guy Magic drafted last year. I don't understand these people with no balls get the opportunities. The NBA is the highest level of competition for basketball. If you have an opportunity to get there, you have to try. Anything else is being a b****.
     
  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    well he might not get the chance to look for another job for a while.


    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2892797


    Billy Donovan and the Magic entered talks on Monday to terminate the contract that he signed on Friday, but the NBA might have a say in resolving the matter as well, ESPN.com has learned.

    Multiple sources said that Donovan is being asked to refrain from coaching in the NBA for five years as one of the terms of his release from his Magic contract. Especially in light of this newest wrinkle, negotiations were expected to continue into Tuesday.

    ESPN's Kelly Naqi cites a Magic team source saying Donovan obtained legal representation at 6 p.m. Monday to work on the complexities of the contract with Orlando attorneys.

    The source also said that Donovan has called high-ranking team officials several times apologizing for the his change of heart. According to the source, Donovan said, "I'm so sorry this happened. I meant no harm. My heart is in Florida."

    After signing a contract with the Magic on Friday, Donovan, who is fresh off leading the Florida Gators to back-to-back national titles, decided he wants out of Orlando.

    Donovan had been waiting Monday afternoon to hear from Magic owner Rich DeVos to find out what Orlando would do with him. With talks ongoing, the choices appear to be simple: Either the two parties will agree to rescind his deal or the Magic could pressure him into honoring the contract and/or seek damages.

    Donovan was at his home in Gainesville, Fla., on Monday and isn't expected to speak on the matter until there is closure. Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley, who was in a board of regents meeting earlier in the day on contractual issues not related to Donovan, isn't going to comment, either, until there is a resolution.


    Should the University of Florida take Billy Donovan back?
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    Meanwhile, sources told ESPN.com that Donovan called Foley on Saturday morning and said he was really struggling with the decision to leave. It was not until Saturday morning that Donovan told Foley that he wanted to come back.

    The prevailing mood among sources close to the situation is that Donovan will remain the head coach at Florida, the recruits and staff will stay intact, and the Magic will then hope to land former Miami Heat coach Stan Van Gundy. He has been contacted about their opening as well as Spurs assistant coach P.J. Carlesimo, the Orlando Sentinel reports.

    As long as Donovan is still under contract with the Magic, Florida will back off and let the process unfold. The search for a new Florida coach obviously has been put on hold. Sources said that Florida expects the contract negotiations with Donovan and the Magic to last a few days.

    According to sources, the Magic are now pursuing former Miami Heat coach Stan Van Gundy, who returned to Florida on Monday after interviewing Sunday in Las Vegas for the vacant Sacramento Kings job. Sources said the Magic are trying to get Van Gundy before the Kings make him an offer.

    Donovan, according to sources, hopes to reach a resolution soon so he can resume his coaching duties at the University of Florida.

    ESPN.com spoke at length Monday with those close to the situation, who said Donovan sounds much more at ease with his decision to return to Florida than he ever did in his decision to join the Magic.

    Sources said the Magic pressured Donovan to make a decision last Wednesday and Thursday, and Donovan, who admittedly had gone back and forth on the idea, finally agreed to take the job.

    But problems arose on Friday when Donovan held the first of two news conferences. The issue was the order of events. Florida officials felt the Magic should hold the first news conference, since they were hiring Donovan. At that news conference Friday, Donovan was greeted by a standing ovation from the Magic staff.

    Coaching flip-flops
    Billy Donovan could become the third college basketball coach in the last two years to last less than two weeks on a new job before returning to the old one:
    Coach Returned to Left at altar Days
    '07 Billy Donovan Florida? Magic? 3
    '07 Dana Altman Creighton Arkansas 1
    '06 Gregg Marshall Winthrop Coll. of Charleston 1

    The news conference was euphoric for Donovan, who exited feeling great about the situation. Donovan, according to the Magic, signed a five-year, $27.5 million contract just before Friday's news conference.

    But then Donovan boarded a plane for Gainesville and a news conference to say goodbye to Florida. There were tears as he and Foley spoke about his departure. That was Donovan's lasting image and it stayed with him Friday night and into Saturday morning.

    If anything, maybe the news conferences should have been reversed, but Florida wasn't going to trump the Magic's desire to make a first big splash with the news.

    Multiple sources said Donovan woke up Saturday morning and realized he had made a mistake. Donovan felt awful about what he had done and realized how much he loved coaching Florida.

    Last month, at a reunion for the Providence 1987 Final Four team, former coach Rick Pitino, now at the Louisville helm, said he advised Donovan not to take an offer to coach Kentucky. Pitino said he wanted Donovan to enjoy the benefits of winning two national titles, and he hoped one day he'd see Donovan's name on the O'Connell Center court.

    Sources told ESPN.com on Monday that Donovan had a hard time making the phone calls to tell his staff and players that he was leaving. He was especially troubled by telling Foley. It turned out he didn't feel any better about being the Magic coach come Saturday morning, either.

    That's when Donovan told Foley he had changed his mind. At the time, Foley was on his way to Richmond, Va., to discuss the Gators' job opening with Virginia Commonwealth coach Anthony Grant, a former assistant to Donovan for 10 years. Foley and Grant weren't able to meet, no offer was made by phone, and Foley flew back to Gainesville.

    Notable short tenures
    Changes of heart have taken place in all sports. Sometimes the decision was the team's.
    Person Job Days How left
    Dan Marino Dolphins Senior VP 22 Changed mind
    Wally Backman D-Backs manager 4 Fired
    George O'Leary ND football coach 4 Resigned
    Bobby Cremins S. Carolina hoops coach 2 Changed mind
    Bill Belichick Jets football coach 1 Changed mind
    Eddie Stanky Texas Rangers manager 1 Changed mind

    After Donovan changed his mind, Magic representatives traveled to Gainesville to try to convince Donovan to change it back. But DeVos was out of the country at the time and hadn't weighed in on the matter. He was expected to add his thoughts on Monday afternoon.

    "What it comes down to is that Billy thought he knew what he wanted and that's why he said yes," said a source. "But he realized [Saturday] that he didn't want to be any place but at Florida, but unfortunately he is now entangled in contractual issues."

    Donovan said Friday that Pitino and Jeff Van Gundy, the former Providence assistant and longtime NBA coach, had told him that the Magic offered a good situation for him, because they have a solid organization with young players and salary cap space. So if he really wanted to go to the NBA, this was a great opportunity. Donovan spoke Friday about all of this, and especially noted Orlando's proximity to Gainesville which would facilitate a smoother transition for moving his family.

    "Personally this was very difficult for me because my 11 years at Florida were a very great 11 years," Donovan said Friday. "But I really looked at myself in a couple of aspects; one, the easy decision for me personally would have been to stay at Florida, or the next step would be to do something that would really challenge me as a person and coach and help me me grow and get better.

    "And I've always been intrigued by the NBA. To leave Florida would have taken something very, very special."

    The question from the Magic now is what they want from him. Do they want him to coach even if his heart isn't into it? Are they willing to move on? Do they want money in return for releasing him from the contract?

    The reality, according to sources, is that Donovan isn't scared of coaching in the NBA, but he simply realized that he loves the University of Florida. And once he signed the contract, held the back-to-back news conferences and slept on it Friday night, he was convinced that he wanted to stay in Gainesville.
     
  16. Achilleus

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    :D The funniest part of it is at the five second mark (at the end) where he pauses and his nostrils flare for some reason, then signs off.

    He reminds me of a cross between Patton Oswalt and a character from King of the Hill.

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