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[ESPN] David Carr, right man to lead franchise

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Khal80, Oct 28, 2006.

  1. Rocketman95

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    He handled it just fine the game before when we completely destroyed the Jags and in 5 of their 7 games so far.

    Carr may have been the major factor in our loss yesterday. That's the first time all year. I'm not ready to hang the guy because of it.
     
  2. jgreen91

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    Yep. Sage has pocket presence. Our Oline isn't as bad and hasn't been as bad as most people think. Carr just doesn't know how to move in the pocket. Also, Carr needs to get outside of the pocket to throw the ball because he throws side-armed. If he hangs in the pocket to throw, then the passes usually get batted down or deflected.

    Carr is an accurate passer when he has plenty of room to work with like when he rolls out. But in the NFL, you don't always have much room to operate.
     
  3. Stack24

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    This was the first game that we can honestly say Carr was the reason for the loss. All the other games he has done a good job only to have other people make bone head plays and cost us the game. This week was definetly on Carr's Shoulders.
     
  4. MadMax

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    i recognize we're not gonna agree on this. i'm tired of david carr.
     
  5. MadMax

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    he didn't play well in the cowboys game. he threw interceptions that set up chip shot scoring drives. he fumbles constantly, and has his entire career. 60 in 67 games. he makes poor decisions. he looks flustered when there's pressure.
     
  6. Stack24

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    I think he's shell shocked...it's going to take some time for him to get out of it...

    You are right about the Dallas game...sort of forgot about that becuase i didn't watch the second half, i was in vegas lol...but other than those 2 did he do too bad in the others? I'll have to give him credit on those.

    I still believe we are an expansion team in many ways, so much of our personal sucked and they are just now trying to upgrade.
     
  7. Rocketman95

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    I'm tired of a crappy defense and crappy run blocking (until the last two games). David Carr, arguably, has cost us one game this season (and even on the fumble returned for the TD, the guy who caused it was not blocked...stupid Carr). We're not a very good team and that's not because of David Carr. Not even close.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    How did Lundi look yesterday, or Sage with the same restrictions?

    I want an HONEST answer RM.

    DD
     
  9. KingCheetah

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    David Carr, right man to lead franchise
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  10. MadMax

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    he's been "shell shocked" for 4.5 years, now. the excuses are exacerbating my feelings towards all this, frankly. it's the fact that for 4 years it's always been "someone else's fault" that drives me crazy. then sage comes in yesterday with the exact same team and drives the team up and down and GASP!!! actually puts them in the end zone 3 TIMES!!!!! WITH HIS ARM!! the horror!!! this personnel that's soooo bad around him, was able to get it done. and when the pressure came, sage got out of the way and made smart plays.
     
  11. MadMax

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    he threw among the worst interceptions i've ever seen.

    he fumbled twice.

    is ANY of that his fault?
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Well spoken my good man...and with heart....

    HEAR HEAR !!

    DD
     
  13. KingCheetah

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    Carr is the rusty linchpin that needs to be replaced -- the Texans took off once Sage was in the game.

    Sage is a better QB than Carr and should be the starter.

    Period.
     
  14. MadMax

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    bottom line is from what little i've seen of sage so far, i think they have a better chance to win with him in the game than with david carr, at this point.

    had sage come in and struggled...or been unable to move the ball..or been sacked repeatedly...i probably wouldn't be saying that. but none of that happened. he checked off receivers instead of staring one down...and he took what the defense gave him.
     
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    This is the most important part of it. Up until yesterday, all the arguments were theoretical. You could blame all the other pieces and say no QB could function with that team. But now we have limited evidence otherwise. And the focus for the rest of the season (the team isn't going anywhere regardless) should be to find out if that half with Rosenfels was a fluke or evidence that maybe the rest of the offense isn't really as bad as it looks when Carr is back there. You have 4 1/2 years of evidence with Carr. It should be time to put someone else back there to find out where the problem really is.
     
  16. KingCheetah

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    A quick reminder Carr is now 20-51 as an NFL starter.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    Well, not yet. Kubiak has named Carr the starter for next week. To be fair to Carr, he has had several stretches this year where he looked just as good as Sage looked in the 2nd half yesterday.
     
  18. MadMax

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    has he had a half where he threw 3 TD's??
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    Another quick reminder. Casserly was the GM and Capers was his coach.
     
  20. MadMax

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    and everyone else they took EXCEPT FOR DAVID CARR was a mistake, right?
     

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