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[ESPN] David Carr, right man to lead franchise

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Khal80, Oct 28, 2006.

  1. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

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    Can you even imagine what Vince Young could do if he had Andre Johnson and Eric Moulds to throw to!? :eek:
     
  2. Summer Song Giver

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    King I'd like to introduce you to this horse, i know it's dead but you seem like the type who will still enjoy playing with it.
     
  3. msn

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    Complete 50% of his passes? You have to have an accurate arm, even if you're throwing to Jerry Rice and Tim Smith and Steve Largent in their primes.
     
  4. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

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    /snicker
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    I didnt argue RBs have an equal learning curve, Im saying they do have learning curves, and that when they are backup to studs, it could take even longer.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    Well he does have Bennet and Givens, who are not complete crap a la Bradford and Gaffney. Also, he has a pretty good runninggame for help.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Givens is the third wideout, they start Bobby Wade and Drew Bennett. if not "complete crap", they are definitely a bottom tier combo and rank among the very worst in the league. If you saw Wade drop a late in the game TD pass on 3rd down vs. Indy that would have put the Titans up 2 scores, you would agree with this.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Bradford and Gafney definitely qualifed the years they started. I dont think they are playing anymore, not in the NFL anyways.
     
  9. Desert Scar

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    Here are some tidbits:

    Passing Stats
    Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sack/Lost Rating
    Vince Young 114 54 599 47.4 5.3 4 3.5 4 3.5 28 6/15 60.5
    Kerry Collins 90 42 549 46.7 6.1 1 1.1 6 6.7 36 4/23 42.3

    But also consider this:
    Rushing Stats
    Player No Yds Avg Long TD
    Vince Young 25 123 4.9 20 2
    Kerry Collins 0 0 0 0

    Record and points:
    KC 0-3, 33 scored, 76 given up VERSUS teams with a 10-12 record.
    VY 2-2, 80 scored, 103 given up VERSUS teams with a 15-13 record.

    So if nothing else with VY at the helm his offense has been far more productive in points and less error prone than when a 12 year NFL starter has played. I don't think anyone thought VY would be playing by week 8 at all, let alone doing some good things for his team.
     
  10. rhino17

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    Gaffney is on the Patriots and Bradford was cut a couple weeks ago by Detroit
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    Yeah he is, has 1 catch for 4 yards.
     
  12. rhino17

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    Mant rookie running backs do not have learning curves:

    Clinton Portis: 1508 yds
    Edge James: 1553 yds
    Curtis Martin: 1487 yds
    Jamal Lewis: 1364 yds
    Marshall Faulk: 1282 yds

    All these are from their rookie seasons
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Many don't, some do. Too early to call Bush a bust at this point.
     

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