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[ESPN Daily Dime] Rip To My Lou: Alston Slams Teammates After Loss To Knicks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by northeastfan, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. Nolocke

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    Just trade Rafer and Ron for Nash and then lets get rid of Tracy next season when his expiring contract will be worth more then it is now. And oh ya I also miss Wafer. :(
     
  2. TheDreamShake

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    somebody had to say it & it wasn't going to be Yao, Tmac or Artest.......
     
  3. h-townfan

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    I wonder if the people defending T-Mac's and Artest's performance last night actually watched the entire game. They clearly were not playing team ball. Bill and Matt even commented on how they slow the offense. The difference is night and day between how the starting unit and the 2nd unit run the offense.
     
  4. tcadriel

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    Fair enough. I just hate when some can't see beyond one player.

    There's a thing about being on a team, that anyone can tell you that's been on one. When your part of a team, your accountable and commit to your team and your teammates. If one of your teammates doesn't show up or show up on time to practice, you letting not just yourself but your team and teammates as well. Not giving 100%, disrupting the team and not doing the things you should for the team is letting your team down.

    For one or in this many of your teammates to be calling you out, they apparently feel like your holding up your end of the commitment. This is basic stuff that I even tell my son's little league team.
     
  5. mbiker

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    You are missing the point. No one is saying that Rafer is a great player. The Rockets have two players that are not following Adelman’s offense. You can’t have two player on the team doing their own thing. If Rafer does not call them out, who should? Yao wasn’t in the game. I doubt that Tracy and Ron are going to call themselves out. Rafer is the logical choice because he runs the offense.
     
  6. Kwame

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    Wow, the irony of Rafer Alston slamming his teammates for a poor performance after a loss when his entire NBA career has basically been one poor performance after another.
     
  7. daddy cool

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    You didn't read the post above you Bruh so her it is again.

    You are missing the point. No one is saying that Rafer is a great player. The Rockets have two players that are not following Adelman’s offense. You can’t have two player on the team doing their own thing. If Rafer does not call them out, who should? Yao wasn’t in the game. I doubt that Tracy and Ron are going to call themselves out. Rafer is the logical choice because he runs the offense.
     
  8. LongTimeFan

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    Obviously he's not running the offense if he's complaining about how it's run. If you don't like what they're doing, waive them off and make them run the motion. I'm getting sick of Rafer.. he has a stretch of good games and gets this inflated ego about himself. Rafer had a HORRIBLE game, yet after the game he rants about the games of others.
     
  9. badgerfan

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    Because T-Mac and Artest broke the offense.
     
  10. mbiker

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    It’s hard for Rafer to run the offense when he passes it to a player that immediately shoots a contested three. There is nothing a point guard can do when he passes it to a player that holds the ball for 10 seconds. Rafer can’t prevent a player from trying to post up 3 defenders.
     
  11. T_Man

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    I really try to stay away from these T-Mac threads, they are really getting old... But let's be honest about this whole situation.

    First off with this T-Mac just holding the ball thing.... That situation goes 2 ways.. When T-Mac does have the ball, everyone is just standing around..

    T-Mac was actually passsing the ball and he lead the team with assist T-Mac had 6 and Rafer with 3. So a lot of times he's waiting for someone to cut and get open and all the guys are doing is just standing around watching him.. Not to say that he should not take some of the blame by not passing earlier, but that entire arguement goes 2 ways.

    Now this game like many others was not just a T-Mac fault.... A lot of it is the Coach's fault..... In the 4th quarter if you have guys that are not PLAYING the offense the way you like it... Then BE A MAN like Mike Singletary... Yank their butts off the court and send them to the locker room. I don't go for this buying into my system crap... Just BS...

    Also in the 4th quarter when you needed scoring where was Wafer? This whole scenario with this team is just bad from the management on down to the fans.....


    Most of you guys on this board look for any opportunity to blame T-Mac for something... When we lose.. it's T-Mac's fault no matter what..

    As Lee Big stated I hope T-Mac gets traded for the sake of T-Mac... The guy just can't win, no matter what he does. But then again you guys will just look for someone else to blame
     
  12. Clutch

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    I agree. This isn't Rafer's fault and I'm glad someone is saying something. The problem though is if you get rid of Artest and McGrady, you're left with ... Rafer Alston. Sobering.

    I'm fascinated with how this has all happened. For years there was never any question T-Mac was the man, and many of us proclaimed Rafer was the wrong fit alongside him. JVG switched out for Adelman. Now T-Mac and the defense are slipping, the offense clicks better with Rafer running it and we want to put someone different alongside Rafer. Shudder.

    It's simple math to me. Our defensive field goal percentage has gone down the tubes and our perimeter big-minute guys (Rafer, Artest, McGrady) are terribly inefficient shooting the ball. For Artest this is somewhat abnormal. For McGrady it's slowly becoming the norm. For Rafer, it's been this way since before time was time.
     
  13. shortfuse3

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    thank god someone on this team has the balls to say whats on everyone's mind. +1000 respect points for skip 2 my lou.
     
  14. rocketsmetalspd

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    I guess 3 more weeks of trying to see if Ron and TMac can change their ways and start playing team ball will be enough time to warrant any big changes of trading both of these guys.
     
  15. jondoe

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    Give rafer some credit. As a fan, how can you not be upset too for losing to the knicks after having a nice lead? Complacency is for losers.
    The thing with Adleman's offense is that it puts the onus on the defense to not make a mistake with the constant movement. When one player holds the ball and the offense doesnt move, it gives the defense a chance to settle and hone in on the play. Of course, going one on one is needed at times as the defense might shut down all options, hence you need a player like tmac or yao. One on one shouldnt be the first option. It should be the last. Holding the ball while the shot clock runs down doesnt help.
    The irony is that skip made a name for himself in AND1, the type of ball Tmac and Artest are playing.
     
  16. mbiker

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    Tracy would be doing a great job if he played on a team that ran a non-motion read and not react offense. Unfortunately, that is not what is expected of him.
     
  17. tcadriel

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    Corrected.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    There is definitely something wrong with this team. I don't think it all has to do with T-mac...he has some blame to share for sure, but it goes way beyond that.
     
  19. badgerfan

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    Maybe it's T-Mac and Artest then. The Rockets were winning without either of those guys. Then they come back, the offense goes out the window and Alston's ripping people in the media again.
     
  20. thesaint

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    I saw the game, n was really puzzled to not see Wafer in the final minutes!! He came thru many times and hit big shots before. Instead we saw Artest n Tmac jackin up bricks. Bad move on Adelmans part!
     

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