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[ESPN Daily Dime] Rip To My Lou: Alston Slams Teammates After Loss To Knicks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by northeastfan, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. badgerfan

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    Woody Paige talked about the same issue last year with T-Mac being a ball stopper. If T-Mac can't get on the bus with the rest of the team he needs to be go.
     
  2. daddy cool

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    Tracy is clearly the weakest link. Last time he played 2 games in row we win one and lose one. With rafer we won 3, 4 games in a row. Tracy slows down the offense and doesn't play any defense.


    T-mac can't play basketball with 4 other guys. T-mac can only play the game with 1 other player. He never really learned how to play TEAM ball because in high school he was so ahead of everyone to where he played the game 1 on 5.

    He gets to the pros and he sits on the bench for a few seasons and in the process his TEAM development skills is held back even more.


    He get's to orlando and grant hill get's hurt his game goes right back to T-mac in high school. He get's to houston and is forced to co exist with 1 other player in Yao ming. Fast forward 2 and 3 seasons to right now T-mac has the basketball IQ which he can only play with one other guy. T-mac doesn't know how to play in system with 4 other guy's.


    This is why he can't grasp the concept of allowing your team to gell and in crunch time is when you are supposed to use your 1 on 5 skills to take the game over or to read the flow of the game and allow your temmates to help you in crunch time.



    Tracy doesn't really understand how to play TEAM basketball. You have to read the flow the game. If we start off the game and the defense is lcoking in on the ball movement you have to read the situation and know when to attack 1 on 5, isos, pick and rolls.

    If that isn't moving then trust your system and TEAM to get things going. T-mac doesn't know how to play on a TEAM period,point,blank.
     
  3. t_mac1

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    tracy didn't play well last night according to his standards, but he's the weakest link?

    ron artest sit out again last night?
     
  4. professorjay

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    Sounds like comments that have been brimming beneath the surface far before last night's game.

    The team needs a locker room festivus celebration. The open airing of grievances must start now.
     
  5. leebigez

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    I dont mind rafer calling people out because as a team, you do what you need to do. I also saw some last second pass offs to tracy for some shots because other guys are scared to shoot. I see alot of problems including the knicks scoring the last 20pts of the gmae. Where is the defense? Offense come and go, defense in constant.
     
  6. tim562

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    Different title, same information.
     
  7. daddy cool

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    Questions


    1.Do you think tracy is playing his hardest


    2.With all the athletic ability tracy still has do you think he could be better defensively and really make an effort on this end.


    3.Do you think the offense runs better with or without tracy right now.


    4.Do you think this knee problem is mental or physical
     
  8. apxn82

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    If you want T-wack to play he need to score 30 everynight for us to win game. Why? simple reason is, he no longer play D. Simple as that. If he dont d-up other teams will score at will. Only way we can win game is score more than opposite team. If he go 7 for 20 and score less than 20 pts win 0 defense, Wafer is a better answer. He can give you 15 with better defense. Anyone who argued the fact that T-wack play D need to stop watching basketball and start watching ping pong or table tennis.
     
  9. daddy cool

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    Defensively we are back to playing D 4 on 5. Tracy gives zero effort on D


    But tell you the truth we are playing Defense 3 on 5 because ron has mimick T-mac's defensive intensity which is to not play any D at all.
     
  10. Coob5

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    Ron and T-Mac do not trust their teammates. I mean what the heck were they doing during the games they were sitting out. I saw them on the bench, did they not witness, that we had guys like Wafer attacking the basket, Carl Landry hustling and hitting jumpers, and Luis Scola dominating around the basket. I guess they did not notice people setting screens and making cuts to the basket either. Maybe they just could not stomach the fact that they weren't being the heroes and figured they would prove it to everyone that they are by putting on a show. Let me tell you it has been an abysmal performance. Ron and T-mac have both said they don't care about scoring titles, and that they just care about succeeding in the playoffs. PROVE IT!!! :mad:
     
  11. tcadriel

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    Thanks, cuz your relentless defending of Tracy is is obnoxious. This Tracy drama can't end soon enough. Is he gone yet? maybe you'll go with him?
     
  12. leebigez

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    I dont think anyone is playing good defense right now. In the last 10 games the rox are giving up 97ppg and scoring 100. This team isnt good enough offensively to give up 97ppg on 45% shooting.
     
  13. King901

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    Rhere's a difference in calling out a player and making bad chemistry, rafer is making bad chemistry. Trade him. His numbers in the game wasn't amazing, but he rather blame someone else.....A leader doesn't do that.
     
  14. dbdb49

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    U HAVE TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR TOO

    HE DIDN'T PLAY NO DEFENSE

    HAD CRITICAL TURNOVERS

    AND COULDN'T HIT *****

    WITH THAT TEAR DROP

    THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE THIS GUY IS THE TEAM HE PLAYS FOR
     
  15. daddy cool

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    Turnovers were due to T-mac and Ron standing around refusing to set screens,Refusing to move on offense.


    Rafer adapted his game to T-mac an Ron's me first offense.


    I don't blame rafer at all
     
  16. the_hustler

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    although what Raferrr said was legit.. I agree with a few posters here.. He should not have called out Mac and Ron publicly..

    The fact is.. although Raferr is on a hot streak .. he does not have the rep to call out Mac and Ron.. I am pretty sure Mac never called out Rafer directly or indirectly for his indiscriminate poor play across seasons on a regular basis.. All Mac used to say was " Rafer is the floor general" .. I might have missed out a few quotes.. but Mac always supported Rafer...

    but what does Rafer do? call Mac in the public... unwarranted..

    he should have done all this in the locker room.. even if it was ineffective till date.. he should have tried talking to those guys repeatedly..

    The last thing we want is Ron going nuts and raferr disrupting team chemistry...
     
  17. i3artow i3aller

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    The board needs to know that we did not lose due to the T-Mac and Ron show. We lost due to the Rafer and Ron show.

    7 mins 27 secs Landry demands the ball as soon as we get down the court and jacks a errant shot early in the shot clock.

    They run down and Chuck fouls Tim THomas on a 3. He hits them all and its now a 4 pt game.

    T-Mac and Ron enter after the free throws.
    T-Mac feeds a cutting artest who has the ball stolen.
    Robinson comes back with a quick 3. 1 point game.
    T-Mac gets the ball early on and no Rocket moves. He is fouled while looking for a single guy to pass to. T-Mac goes to post up and Ron refuses to give it to him while debating if he should shoot a 3. He eventually thinks otherwise and gives T-Mac the ball with mere secs on the clock. McGrady takes and makes a 3 just before the buzzer.
    Artest goes solo and bricks a deep jumper.
    T-Mac gets the ball again, noone moves, and he takes and makes a jumper of a nice pump fake and step through.
    Robinson continues to light it up.
    Alston bricks a 3.
    Robinson gets a layup.
    T-Mac gets the ball with time winding out and is double teamed and forced into the corner. Again no Rocket comes to the ball or cuts to the basket and he is forced into a fadeaway 3 from the corner. Brick.
    Tie game. T-Mac drives and narrowly misses a lefty layup.
    Next Possession Ron takes the earliest 3 of all time and bricks.
    Ron feeds a wide open scola underneath for a 2 pt lead with 2 mins 38 secs to go
    Chandler hits a deep 3 with battier in his face for a 1 point lead.
    Alston almost gets a T for talkin trash to Robinson.
    T-Mac feeds a wide open Artest who takes a bricks a 3 early in the shot clock
    T-Mac bricks a 3
    Alston Bricks a 3
    T-Mac drives and feeds Scola underneath to bring it to down 1 with 44 secs left
    Duhon gets a layup.
    T-Mac goes for a 2 for 1 3 to tie the game and misses.
    We retain possession and on the inbounds T-Mac gets open for a great look from 3 and airballs. Scola gets the ball and bricks a wide open put back layup, and then RObinson steals the ball and the game is done.
    Ron proceeds to jack up two more meaningless 3s.

    T-Mac and Scola were the only two who played down the stretch. While McGrady did miss a lot of threes he was forced into those shots and was ISO'd by the team when he did have the ball. No Rocket attempted to get open with the ball in his hands.

    Alston did nothing besides brick threes and jaw with Robinson who was too busy making plays.

    Artest as DD said was guilty of going one on one and taking moronic shots. He wanted to be a hero, and ended up a loser. What I am encouraged by is that he LOVES getting the ball to Yao and is quite effective at doing so. Let's give this team the home stand shall we.

    For the life of me I don't know why Alston turned on his teammates because he was as guilty as they come down the stretch of this loss.
     
  18. EGYPT

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    Tmac and Ron are only seeing one another, if one gets the ball he only passed to the other one and it was a shot from there.

    I do not have a problem with people that are good shooters to shoot the ball, but Tmac come on :(
     
  19. ParaSolid

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    It's on Tracy to stop being so ******* passive. I frickin' love the guy, have loved his game since Orlando, but he needs to stop being so ******* slow. He doesn't turn the corner on screens, he doesn't use his first step, and he doesn't cut.

    WTF?

    It's so annoying to see him easily get by Wilson Chandler later in the game, but then still jack up shots. He is in shape, he's just not going hard.

    Please, Tracy, for the love of God, play basketball!
     
  20. the_hustler

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    whoa.. great work!

    But still .. its T-Mac's fault ;)
     

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