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[ESPN Daily Dime] Rip To My Lou: Alston Slams Teammates After Loss To Knicks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by northeastfan, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. King901

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    Rafer messed up alot, and he still wants to blame other people? I say trade him away for nothing.
     
  2. t_mac1

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    i fear a artest-alston showdown in the locker room REAL soon b/c those comments weren't just at tracy, they were also directly at artest.
     
  3. Rileydog

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    Tmac and Artest are looking a lot like Stevie Franchise in the "dribblemania" era.

    Dribble over the pick, do nothing. Reset.

    Dribble beyond the arc, do nothing. Reset.

    Dribble between the legs, and let the shot clock wind down, do nothing.

    Out of options, chuck a bad shot.

    It's losing basketball.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    I was thinking the same thing........it looks like Francis and Mobley passing to each other and jacking up shots....the only difference is that Francis and Mobley relentlessly attacked the basket, so arguably they were more efficient.

    DD
     
  5. W-Mac

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    Rafer is garbage!! I knew as soon as he had those 3 consecutive 20 point games that we were in trouble. He may "run the team better than McGrady" as some of you say, but the fact of the matter is that he's just as much of a GUNNER and can't stand it when other guys try to take over. I'd rather see McGrady and Artest with the ball in their hands instead of Rafer.

    Until those 3 games where he had 20, Rafer was usually 4-13 from the field. I dont call that 'shooting the lights out' by any means either....KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT JACKASS!!! And play some damn DEFENSE!
     
  6. t_mac1

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    you know he's excusing himself despite using "we" b/c he said we didn't do this for the past 6-7 games, clearly blaming this loss on tracy and artest.

    my problem is:
    alston's defense was non-existent b/c he lost his man a few times and they got layups on him

    he jacked up some WILD 3s in this game even when we had a pretty good lead.

    rafer made these comments before tracy and artest came back; he makes those comments now. it's obvious rafer doesn't like tracy and artest. again, artest is a guy that might just pop off REAL soon. and i don't want to see that happening.
     
  7. mbiker

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    The offense was starting to look real nice before Tracy and Ron came back. All Tracy and Ron had to do was blend in, and adapt to the offense. Instead, they decided to do their own thing. During the first quarter of the Detroit game, I thought that they both understood what was needed for the Rockets to be successful. For some reason they both deviated from the team game and decided to play the selfish iso style game that hurt the Rockets earlier in the year.

    I am glad that Rafer made his thoughts public and hopefully Tracy and Ron will start to understand how they are breaking the chemistry of the team.
     
  8. yl042557

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    At the moment I'd rather have Rafer run the show and shoot 4-13 than TMac and Artest do their hold-the-ball-then-jack-a-bad-shot competition. BTW Tmac's 7-20 and Artest's 4-19 are just as bad as 4-13, what is your point?
     
  9. W-Mac

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    Every time i've read the paper lately, if you read between the lines it's obvious that Rafer is calling them out. Last time I checked T-Mac and Artest have won more games than Rafer ever has...yes Artest played like crap last night but he played his best game the night before. It wouldn't bother me a bit if Ron popped his ass!!
     
  10. LabMouse

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    Also, Mobley can make shoots when he is open, and Artest can not, that is another different. Watching Tmac and Artest's plays in last five min last night just make me sick, what a world for that displays! Furthermore, I have to mention our coach, could he use Wafer instead of Artest or Tmac when we need the points? Please do it next time.

     
  11. Hayesfan

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    How many of you were yelling the same thing at the TV last night during the game?

    I know I was complaining in chat about all the freaking iso plays. Once Tmac started doing it, then Ron started doing it. It wasn't until the subs came in and actually RAN the OFFENSE and played team defense that we started doing well.

    Even the Knicks announcers were complimenting our bench saying that we were a deep team and that our ball movement looked really good. They were also complimenting our defense when those same players were in.

    It wasn't because we were catching up, its because they looked much better on the court

    because they weren't playing lemme iso this time and you can do it next time.

    Rafer is just saying the same thing that we all saw and the team all saw last night in the game.

    The starters played like crap because it was a stand around and watch the Tmac or Ron show.

    That's why we lost.
     
  12. t_mac1

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    another problem with this is: why can't alston discuss this with the team IN-HOUSE?

    if he wants to be a real leader, sit down with ron and tracy and talk with them and what they need to do. i'm sure they're all men and if you talk to them like men, they'll respond.

    by obviously pointing the fingers at those 2 publicly, it's not going to be effective.
     
  13. W-Mac

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    How often has Artest gone 4-19? 1st time this season! How often has Rafer gone 4-13 or worse? Pretty much the whole season except for those 3 in a row!

    Rafer is a PG, he should never jack up 13-15 shots in a game, unless Tracy and Ron are out!
     
  14. t_mac1

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    actually the starters got a pretty good lead in the 3rd. the 2nd unit did poor in the 4th, but excellent in the 2nd.
     
  15. mbiker

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    Do you not see the difference in ball movement when Rafer is running the offense?
     
  16. Hayesfan

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    We were up by 7 when Tmac came back into the game in the 4th
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Just for giggles.

    Yearly Rockets shooting percentages.

    Tmac .388%
    Rafer .374%
    Ron .374%

    I don't want ANY of them taking that many shots.

    DD
     
  18. tcadriel

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    Get your head out of your butt and wake up. This is Rafer fault? You did see Tracy and Artest with the ball in their hands and this is what you got, a "L" to the Knicks. Rafer is dieing for so consistently, team play and some hustle and justifiably so, is giving his teammates(mainly Tracy, but also Artest) a kick in the nuts. JACKASS.
     
  19. Jeff Who

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    They kept an 8 point lead in the 4th but everything failed after Hayes' foul on Thomas which gave him 3 free throws.

    We took a bigger lead in the 3rd, because T-Mac made 3 3s.
     
  20. northeastfan

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    Absolutely ... let TSlack and Artest jack them up instead! Just for reference:

    FG%
    TSlack 38.8%
    Artest 37.4%
    Alston 37.4%

    Only Chuck Hayes has a worse FG% on the team. Yup, let these two stars shoot.
     

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